--- Log opened Sun Apr 13 00:00:40 2014
16:16 < conseo> hey
16:16 < conseo> my irc client was broken for some time, now it works again...
16:17 < conseo> mcallan: what is your status? anything new from thomas?
17:17 < mcallan> hey c.  myself i'm just finishing up that essay (adding credits to you and thomas for helping with the impl)...
17:19 < mcallan> thomas was proofreading it, and we were speaking about that
17:30 < conseo> ok. is it about autonomy?
18:06 < mcallan> yes, but not explicitly.  the topic is worded in terms of 'steering' (see my latest to list)
19:14 < mcallan> how are things with you, c?
19:27 < conseo>  They can explore many paths
19:27 < conseo> simultaneously; so that, if a given action does not reduce anyone’s freedom to act, then it can hardly re
19:27 < conseo> -
19:27 < conseo> duce the likelihood of eventual success. Success depends on opportune discoveries to which the formal
19:27 < conseo> theory is blind. Therefore the optimum strategy for the blind strategist is to maximize everyone’s freedom
19:27 < conseo> of action.
19:28 < conseo> i can see how you span the collective rationalisation process in the myth metaphor
19:29 < conseo> kants construction of reason is very boring (and in some ways wrong) imo, but you span the totality for the rationalisation process in an interesting way
19:29 < conseo> i have tried to practically realize that quote a bit more
19:30 < conseo> the reddit clone is now running on a p2p votorola/git-inspired repository system
19:30 < conseo> which automatically syncs and is eventual consistent
19:31 < conseo> http://shelf.polyc0l0r.net/
19:32 < conseo> i did this to build such distributed software, to make votorola's concepts more hackable and embeddable in the workflow of applications
19:33 < conseo> also to fix the data and mirror it automatically as was needed by vote mirroring and in many other places like remote drafting
19:33 < conseo> it needs some work still, especially in load-balancing and authentication, but i guess you can imagine that XD
19:36 < conseo> in case you are interested, the software is here: https://github.com/ghubber/geschichte the docs are a bit outdated because the doc generation tool throws exceptions at me atm.
19:38 < conseo> by using a browser in the very client with full access to (a local selection of) data, can commit and diverge at will and merge later when he or she wants
19:39 < conseo> it also makes the clients faster because all data is cached, technically it has many benefits and layers of abstraction can still be broken by e.g. using a single server-peer as a committer (like db transactor)
19:39 < conseo> then you get a consistent system
19:41 < mcallan> i'm surprised (pleasantly!) because i thought u were no longer working on that
19:42 < mcallan> i'm sorry but the light is fading and i must go for a run...
19:42 < mcallan> will reply properly tomorrow
19:42 < conseo> ok, nice run!
19:42 < conseo> sure
19:43 < conseo> no rush
19:43 < mcallan> ok (thx), till 2morrow
--- Log closed Mon Apr 14 00:00:57 2014