--- Log opened Fri Mar 15 00:00:28 2013
00:02 < mcallan> yes, it all connects up... i think i see what you mean.  and these are mostly data models, and logical relations, like ontologies and such?
00:11 < grisac> yes, the idea on a nutshell is to generate a platform to integrate different models democratically, supported by a theoretical and technical platform. So if your organization prefers the model of one person-one vote and mine prefers a hierarchical leadership, if your organization prefers to share resources  in equally and mine prefers to use currency and finances, both organizations could coexist and people can fluently change of organization. So organizatio
00:12 < grisac> let's say is a big nutshell... (sorry)
00:13 < mcallan> (sounds like the purpose is to transfer/copy the user/member's data, from org to org then?)
00:16 < grisac> it can be interpreted that way as a first approach
00:20 < grisac> but if you consider that, maybe it will force the protocol to be much more flexible.
00:21 < mcallan> some other projects that come to mind, which i don't know too much about, but which i think are focused on structure of social groups. are "federated general assembly" and "global square"
00:22 < grisac> thank you, i'll read their docs.
00:25 < grisac> one question, in your site there seems to be no upgrades for votorola after 0.2.3 (jun/2011), is this the last version?
00:28 < mcallan> that's the latest version with test installation docs, but it's very out of date.  latest version is in repo: http://zelea.com/var/db/repo/votorola/
00:29 < mcallan> we're still only prototyping.  if anyone wants to install, i will cut them a release.  (i need to document that fact better)
00:31 < mcallan> (sorry, *tested* installation docs)
00:31 < grisac> ok, thanks, I can continue with this... I just want to see the details of what you are doing, I sometimes understand the ideas reading the code.
00:34 < mcallan> (sure.  if you ever have any questions, just ask)
00:35 < grisac> i'll have a lot to read, Thank you very much for your patience, I'll contact you later.
00:36 < mcallan> you're welcome sergio.  nice to meet you
00:37 < grisac> I've asked to be added on the distribution list for votorola, so we'll be in touch. :D
00:40 < mcallan> cool, i look forward to chatting :-)
00:41 < mcallan> i'm signing off shortly.  good night all
16:55 < conseo> mcallan: if u into some nerdy but deep humor, u might enjoy this (including record): https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/eternal-flame.html but don't get it wrong please :-)
17:38 < mcallan> it's not enough for these lisp coders to have stallman on their side, now they're claiming they have god, too ;-)
18:07 < conseo> that is one of the deeper aspects. it is written by atheists and reduces god to lisp. god had six days and a deadline -> s/he had to use lisp which actually reduces god to it... imo at least it would be considered blasphemia in any religion i am aware of to reduce god to a material process with characteristics of human labour
18:07 < conseo> god might be material, but he cannot have a deadline :-P
18:10 < conseo> it is the boldest flaming i have seen due to my current memory :-D
18:11 < conseo> anyhow, hope u enjoyed it
18:23 < mcallan> except it brings back memories of the days when i was cursed as a bad poet.  As peter s. beagle says, "l'll change your heart into green grass, and all you love into a sheep.  i'll turn you into a bad poet with dreams"
18:24 < mcallan> :-p
19:10 < conseo> hmm, never heard of him i think
19:16 < conseo> i guess this is meant ideology-critical towards romanticism and superficial emotional depth in poetry, but i actually have no clue and no context
19:21 < mcallan> conseo: you on skype c?  can i talk to u for a few minutes?
19:21 < conseo> yes, in half an hour or so?
19:22 < mcallan> ok
19:40 < conseo> mcallan: u got mumble?
19:41 < mcallan> yes, i think so
19:50 < mcallan> sorry, changed my sound card.  i'd have to reconfigure the client.  can u do skype?
20:27 < mcallan> grisac: ping
20:33 < conseo> mcallan: weird last mail i got from u is march 6th Re: [MG] (SMVcon) Developers cooperating with AG Meinungsfindungstool
20:33 < conseo> i have to check that
20:36 < mcallan> i just sent u test mail (tho not sure what address u use for lists)
20:38 < mcallan> conseo: ^^^ also, i sent u a few messages in last 3 weeks, to which u did not reply
20:38 < conseo> fuck
20:38 < mcallan> (they weren't important)
20:41 < conseo> mcallan: got ur mail
20:42 < conseo> mcallan: last one before that i got from u privately was on 23.02
20:42 < mcallan> what was last direct mail from me (not to list), if u can easily check that?
20:43 < mcallan> (i'll resend any u missed)
--- Log closed Sat Mar 16 00:00:45 2013