--- Log opened Sun Feb 17 00:00:29 2013
04:23 < mcallan> n8 c
04:26 < mcallan> conseo: i agree about drawing people in (i assume they begin by assuming it is nonsense, and are unwilling to click on anything), but i can't visualize the alternative u suggest. can u code it yourself in a branch? we can have as many home pages as we want
04:29 < mcallan> about voting i'm unsure, because i think the forums are place to interface with newcomers. if the homepage draws them to participate, then i guess it should do so by first drawing them to the forums
08:12 < conseo> i don't think so, somebody coming to the homepage is already interested in voting and consensus building. the exposure through forums is indirect for people who have no interested and clue about the process
08:12 < conseo> another entry point is entering the tools at a specific position (to make you vote for it).
08:13 < conseo> but i don't want to be reduced to somebody on the forums if i am particularly interested in votorola and want to use it imo
08:23 < mcallan> but it can' really be used without discussion, at least not properly. wheras someone who discusses is a full participant, even if he doesn't vote. this is why i want to focus on forums
08:23 < mcallan> *can't*
08:30 < mcallan> i see no growth whatsoever outside of forums. can't imagine anyone registering just to vote, unless there's already hundreds of others doing the real work. mass mentality will attract the followers, but we don't them up front. can't do anything with them
08:30 < mcallan> don't *need* them, i meant
08:32 < conseo> but people don't come on the homepage to land in a forum, they come because they need tooling for consensus building
08:34 < conseo> they already have forums where the issue is being discussed
08:34 < mcallan> i don't think they come, except to learn what votorola is
08:35 < mcallan> but we need to talk, becuase this is part of new practice
08:35 < mcallan> i mean, it works different than we pictured before
08:37 < mcallan> u free to skype sometime?
08:38 < conseo> yep
08:38 < conseo> i'll get some breakfast first and then ping you
08:38 < conseo> let's say 30-45 mins
08:39 < mcallan> ok, cool
08:39 < mcallan> (enjoy breakfast)
09:30 < mcallan> jabowery: welcome
09:30 < mcallan> serapath: (welcome too)
09:40 < conseo> mcallan: i am on skype
09:41 < mcallan> ok, coming
--- Log closed Mon Feb 18 00:00:47 2013