--- Log opened Fri Jan 18 00:00:23 2013
16:24 < conseo> mcallan: how are you?
17:03 < mcallan> conseo: hey c, all's well here.  how about u?
17:03 < conseo> good, a bit wasted
17:03 < mcallan> how come?
17:04 < conseo> have read too much about clojure and watched too much stuff :-)
17:05 < conseo> and have used it for exercises and some musical stuff
17:05 < conseo> have u ever used eshell?
17:05 < mcallan> hmm, don't think so
17:05 < conseo> its impressive it is like bash + emacs lisp combined
17:06 < conseo> (u can use it like bash)
17:06 < mcallan> a unix shell, but with lisp
17:07 < conseo> (u can use lisp expressions, but don't have paranetheses if u don't like to)
17:07 < mcallan> i see.  no, never used it
17:11 < conseo> emacs itself is a pretty interesting project, being related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_Machine
17:12 < mcallan> uh huh.  i like emacs, but i was never excited about lisp
17:13 < conseo> hehe
17:15 < conseo> lists are the simplest data structure allowing to formulate a sequence (which is necessary to describe programs). i like this minimalism as with it a lot of consistency and concise expressions are possible
17:15 < conseo> i don't know what it is, but i am somehow hooked by it. it has so many benefits and allows me to express data as code and vice versa
17:16 < mcallan> it's good to play with things, and explore
17:17 < conseo> i might change my mind, but i have learned a lot from it already. more than from learning c++ or java in my current experience, because the compiler is always accessible
17:17 < conseo> yes
17:19 < conseo> haven't been able to fix the headsup-display yet, it is borked somehow. will try to find out next
17:20 < conseo> (but got a new cpu, so java and gwt doesn't crash as often, which makes dev. less pain)
17:20 < mcallan> no problem, let me know if i can help
17:23 < mcallan> i'm trying to diagram the position space rationalization, so i can reply to you and david
17:24 < mcallan> am using these to show composition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_tiling
17:29  * conseo is reading the article...
17:39 < conseo> sounds interesting to lay things out ins pace, though i cannot see the direct connection
17:39 < conseo> curious what you will come up with
17:41 < mcallan> yes, i have to draw it first
17:41 < mcallan> (too hard to explain, shouldn't have posted)
17:44 < conseo> why not? we don't have to discuss it yet :-)
17:44 < conseo> bbl
18:26 < conseo> re
19:16 < mcallan> sorry, got wrapped up in my drawing
21:16 < conseo> gn8
21:16 < mcallan> n8 c
22:46 < mcallan> i just wore out my mouse, clicking on these diagrams :-p
--- Log closed Sat Jan 19 00:00:41 2013