--- Log opened Fri Jan 18 00:00:23 2013 16:24 < conseo> mcallan: how are you? 17:03 < mcallan> conseo: hey c, all's well here. how about u? 17:03 < conseo> good, a bit wasted 17:03 < mcallan> how come? 17:04 < conseo> have read too much about clojure and watched too much stuff :-) 17:05 < conseo> and have used it for exercises and some musical stuff 17:05 < conseo> have u ever used eshell? 17:05 < mcallan> hmm, don't think so 17:05 < conseo> its impressive it is like bash + emacs lisp combined 17:06 < conseo> (u can use it like bash) 17:06 < mcallan> a unix shell, but with lisp 17:07 < conseo> (u can use lisp expressions, but don't have paranetheses if u don't like to) 17:07 < mcallan> i see. no, never used it 17:11 < conseo> emacs itself is a pretty interesting project, being related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_Machine 17:12 < mcallan> uh huh. i like emacs, but i was never excited about lisp 17:13 < conseo> hehe 17:15 < conseo> lists are the simplest data structure allowing to formulate a sequence (which is necessary to describe programs). i like this minimalism as with it a lot of consistency and concise expressions are possible 17:15 < conseo> i don't know what it is, but i am somehow hooked by it. it has so many benefits and allows me to express data as code and vice versa 17:16 < mcallan> it's good to play with things, and explore 17:17 < conseo> i might change my mind, but i have learned a lot from it already. more than from learning c++ or java in my current experience, because the compiler is always accessible 17:17 < conseo> yes 17:19 < conseo> haven't been able to fix the headsup-display yet, it is borked somehow. will try to find out next 17:20 < conseo> (but got a new cpu, so java and gwt doesn't crash as often, which makes dev. less pain) 17:20 < mcallan> no problem, let me know if i can help 17:23 < mcallan> i'm trying to diagram the position space rationalization, so i can reply to you and david 17:24 < mcallan> am using these to show composition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_tiling 17:29 * conseo is reading the article... 17:39 < conseo> sounds interesting to lay things out ins pace, though i cannot see the direct connection 17:39 < conseo> curious what you will come up with 17:41 < mcallan> yes, i have to draw it first 17:41 < mcallan> (too hard to explain, shouldn't have posted) 17:44 < conseo> why not? we don't have to discuss it yet :-) 17:44 < conseo> bbl 18:26 < conseo> re 19:16 < mcallan> sorry, got wrapped up in my drawing 21:16 < conseo> gn8 21:16 < mcallan> n8 c 22:46 < mcallan> i just wore out my mouse, clicking on these diagrams :-p --- Log closed Sat Jan 19 00:00:41 2013