--- Log opened Sun Dec 09 00:00:48 2012 06:29 < mcallan> i'll turn my skype box on thomasvonderelbe, ping me or ring me whenever you're free 11:44 < thomasvonderelbe> mcallan: Mike, I'm sorry. I forgot yesterday, that I have a family-meeting today. 11:45 < thomasvonderelbe> it is over now, but I feel, like I'm through for today 11:45 < mcallan> hey thomas 11:45 < thomasvonderelbe> hey 11:45 < mcallan> that's cool, we can talk any day. is tomorrow ok? 11:45 < thomasvonderelbe> I would rather talk tomorrow 11:45 < mcallan> cool 11:45 < thomasvonderelbe> yes, very good! 11:45 < mcallan> i'm up around noon your time, i think 11:46 < thomasvonderelbe> ah cool. shortly after that will be good for me 11:46 < thomasvonderelbe> yes, good to be back on irc 11:46 < thomasvonderelbe> C helped me a lot 11:46 < thomasvonderelbe> ok, talk to you tomorrow then 11:48 < mcallan> ok, till soon 15:13 < conseo> mcallan: still here? 15:44 < mcallan> conseo: hy c 15:44 < conseo> mcallan: hi 15:45 < conseo> how r u? 15:45 < mcallan> ach, i'm writing one of those emails that never ends. worn me out. otherwise ok :-) 15:46 < conseo> communication... always cumbersome :-D 15:47 < conseo> What do you mean with: But now it seems the formal system (including the new plug-in 15:47 < conseo> framework) can carry the burden of cross-forum extension itself, just 15:47 < conseo> as it carries the burden of scale. ? 15:48 < mcallan> how do i summarize ?? ... 15:48 < conseo> i read your mail in the direction that we now need something to hold people together in the process, rather than bridging communities which do not yet exist. your mail sounded a lot like the economical perspective, but i am not sure.. 15:48 < mcallan> or expand... 15:49 < conseo> i don't want to hijack the thread again with my stuff :-) 15:49 < mcallan> no problem. maybe u should join our skype talk tomorrow... 15:50 < mcallan> but yes, i did mean that we could focus on the narrow group for now... 15:50 < conseo> awesome 15:50 < mcallan> basically, that's where we need to learn, is what i'm thinking 15:51 < conseo> noon sounds good 15:51 < conseo> i've got a university course at 4 p.m. our time 15:52 < conseo> yes. my answer to your question is success 15:52 < conseo> practical success holds people together :-) 15:56 < mcallan> ok, so this could be one of the things we'd learn, for example 16:09 < conseo> hopefully 16:13 < mcallan> i'm finished this foolish email, which has me burned out. gonna go for a run... 16:13 < mcallan> ping u tomorrow around noonish, give or take an hour? 16:19 < conseo> give or take? 16:19 < conseo> an hour would be ok to talk 16:23 < mcallan> i meant start time, plus or minus an hour. but i'm asleep... thomas fixed it already at 12 - 1230 16:33 < mcallan> i'm off guy, cu tomorrow 17:25 < conseo> gn8 --- Log closed Mon Dec 10 00:00:05 2012