--- Log opened Mon Sep 24 00:00:56 2012 11:00 < mcallan> not sure which feed you mean, or which pollname 11:06 < mcallan> conseo: for your stage two area(s) served by you, do you want to start with mannheim? in any case, i need an area name for testing 11:41 < conseo> mcallan: yes 11:47 < mcallan> what's a good area name? Mann? 11:51 < conseo> i don't know another big city starting with Mann here in germany. 11:52 < conseo> in general, is it complicated to fix this if two regions/destricts have a similar starting string? 11:53 < mcallan> they just have choose different formal names. so Man for Manchester, Mann for Mannheim, Mani (?) for Manitoba ... 11:55 < mcallan> name collisions are only a temporary problem for stage 1,2. the area gets its own pollwiki in stage 3, and collisions are no longer possible 11:59 < conseo> ok 11:59 < mcallan> ok 11:59 < conseo> but this is in D/* namespace anyway? 12:00 < mcallan> no, mannheim will be here: http://zelea.com/w/Mann 12:00 < mcallan> all areas are top level. no heirarchy (ublike divisions) 12:00 < mcallan> *unlike* 12:12 < mcallan> nice pacing from harvester in my log tail, exactly 1 s, even on month boundaries 12:17 < conseo> triggered from talktrack already :-) 12:23 < mcallan> nice 13:41 < conseo> mcallan: http://v.polyc0l0r.net:8080/v/xf/#c=DG&p=G!p!govn 13:43 < conseo> select a voter in votetrack to see the update button 13:48 < conseo> it is weird that i have to allow scripts from google.com, gstatic.com and googleapis.com to show the votetrack (if only allow google.com the maps shows but the votetrack doesn't) 13:49 < conseo> the map shows up 14:20 < conseo> maybe it would be better to code the actor name in as well (?) 14:21 < conseo> in the url hash-tag 15:32 < mcallan> myself, i don't want to put time into the gwt scenes except to keep them running as is 17:38 < conseo> ok 20:55 < conseo> mcallan: are semantic properties only shown for logged in users?) 20:55 < conseo> if so firefox shows me properties on this page not logged in: http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Metagovernment/mailing_list 20:56 < conseo> but not on http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Votorola/mailing_list 20:56 < conseo> maybe this is just some caching issue 20:56 < conseo> neither show for a not-logged-in user in chromium 21:04 < mcallan> it's a bug in SMW ... 21:06 < mcallan> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38809 21:14 < mcallan> conseo: i just made u an admin. u now have a refresh tab. although deep refresh or dummy edit makes fact box vanish, and refresh tab is supposed to be equiv to deep edit, i find it makes fact box reappear! 21:15 < conseo> sounds funny, hopefully not too funny 21:16 < mcallan> can u confirm as true what i reported in bugzilla? and also behaviour of refresh tab? 21:17 < mcallan> (maybe we can prod them to fix this) 21:24 < conseo> ok 21:30 < mcallan> u replicate all? 21:56 < conseo> what do you mean? 21:57 < conseo> mcallan: where can i get a non-wiki service which has no pollname set? 21:58 < conseo> (to show the unfiltered track) 22:00 < mcallan> i mean do you replicate what i reported in bugzilla above? and also behaviour of refresh tab? 22:07 < mcallan> outside of wiki, only Dum gwt/scenes show poll-less stage, i guess: http://zelea.com/y/vw/xf/#c=DumDum 22:07 < mcallan> but there's a kinda bug there, because of how the stage persists polls... 22:07 < conseo> yes 22:08 < conseo> well, i will not link this poll-less track-view then 22:08 < conseo> i will replicate tomorrow, i just wanted to finish this mail which i am writing for a while now :-) 22:09 < mcallan> ok. alternatively u can wait for stage 2, which should be ready in day or two 22:11 < conseo> mcallan: ok, i just thought that it might make sense to release early since the view is working, to get some feedback before courses start next week 22:12 < conseo> or do you think i should wait? 22:14 < mcallan> the gwt/scenes suck, and will detract from the purpose. you will have to explain so much (ignore this glitch, ignore that glitch) that feedback will be difficult 22:16 < conseo> i don't post the scenes, only votespace and bridge on v.polyc0l0r.net 22:18 < mcallan> as long as nobody clicks on link to wiki... 22:20 < conseo> ok, i'll wait 22:21 < mcallan> easy to explain when stuff is missing, harder when stuff misbehaves. i would wait too. but if u don't mind explaining, it's ok 22:23 < mcallan> (my own head is spinning, thinking about how all this stuff interacts. but maybe i just need some zzzz's) 22:25 < mcallan> tomorrow i should have Mann on my dev wiki for u to test 22:45 < conseo> ok, cool 23:46 < conseo> i am off for today, cu tomorrow 23:53 < mcallan> me2, cu --- Log closed Tue Sep 25 00:00:13 2012