--- Log opened Mon Sep 24 00:00:56 2012
11:00 < mcallan> not sure which feed you mean, or which pollname
11:06 < mcallan> conseo: for your stage two area(s) served by you, do you want to start with mannheim?  in any case, i need an area name for testing
11:41 < conseo> mcallan: yes
11:47 < mcallan> what's a good area name?  Mann?
11:51 < conseo> i don't know another big city starting with Mann here in germany.
11:52 < conseo> in general, is it complicated to fix this if two regions/destricts have a similar starting string?
11:53 < mcallan> they just have choose different formal names.  so Man for Manchester, Mann for Mannheim, Mani (?) for Manitoba ...
11:55 < mcallan> name collisions are only a temporary problem for stage 1,2.  the area gets its own pollwiki in stage 3, and collisions are no longer possible
11:59 < conseo> ok
11:59 < mcallan> ok
11:59 < conseo> but this is in D/* namespace anyway?
12:00 < mcallan> no, mannheim will be here: http://zelea.com/w/Mann
12:00 < mcallan> all areas are top level.  no heirarchy (ublike divisions)
12:00 < mcallan> *unlike*
12:12 < mcallan> nice pacing from harvester in my log tail, exactly 1 s, even on month boundaries
12:17 < conseo> triggered from talktrack already :-)
12:23 < mcallan> nice
13:41 < conseo> mcallan: http://v.polyc0l0r.net:8080/v/xf/#c=DG&p=G!p!govn
13:43 < conseo> select a voter in votetrack to see the update button
13:48 < conseo> it is weird that i have to allow scripts from google.com, gstatic.com and googleapis.com to show the votetrack (if only allow google.com the maps shows but the votetrack doesn't)
13:49 < conseo> the map shows up
14:20 < conseo> maybe it would be better to code the actor name in as well (?)
14:21 < conseo> in the url hash-tag
15:32 < mcallan> myself, i don't want to put time into the gwt scenes except to keep them running as is
17:38 < conseo> ok
20:55 < conseo> mcallan: are semantic properties only shown for logged in users?)
20:55 < conseo> if so firefox shows me properties on this page not logged in: http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Metagovernment/mailing_list
20:56 < conseo> but not on http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Votorola/mailing_list
20:56 < conseo> maybe this is just some caching issue
20:56 < conseo> neither show for a not-logged-in user in chromium
21:04 < mcallan> it's a bug in SMW ...
21:06 < mcallan> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38809
21:14 < mcallan> conseo: i just made u an admin.  u now have a refresh tab.  although deep refresh or dummy edit makes fact box vanish, and refresh tab is supposed to be equiv to deep edit, i find it makes fact box reappear!
21:15 < conseo> sounds funny, hopefully not too funny
21:16 < mcallan> can u confirm as true what i reported in bugzilla?  and also behaviour of refresh tab?
21:17 < mcallan> (maybe we can prod them to fix this)
21:24 < conseo> ok
21:30 < mcallan> u replicate all?
21:56 < conseo> what do you mean?
21:57 < conseo> mcallan: where can i get a non-wiki service which has no pollname set?
21:58 < conseo> (to show the unfiltered track)
22:00 < mcallan> i mean do you replicate what i reported in bugzilla above?  and also behaviour of refresh tab?
22:07 < mcallan> outside of wiki, only Dum gwt/scenes show poll-less stage, i guess: http://zelea.com/y/vw/xf/#c=DumDum
22:07 < mcallan> but there's a kinda bug there, because of how the stage persists polls...
22:07 < conseo> yes
22:08 < conseo> well, i will not link this poll-less track-view then
22:08 < conseo> i will replicate tomorrow, i just wanted to finish this mail which i am writing for a while now :-)
22:09 < mcallan> ok.  alternatively u can wait for stage 2, which should be ready in day or two
22:11 < conseo> mcallan: ok, i just thought that it might make sense to release early since the view is working, to get some feedback before courses start next week
22:12 < conseo> or do you think i should wait?
22:14 < mcallan> the gwt/scenes suck, and will detract from the purpose.  you will have to explain so much (ignore this glitch, ignore that glitch) that feedback will be difficult
22:16 < conseo> i don't post the scenes, only votespace and bridge on v.polyc0l0r.net
22:18 < mcallan> as long as nobody clicks on link to wiki...
22:20 < conseo> ok, i'll wait
22:21 < mcallan> easy to explain when stuff is missing, harder when stuff misbehaves.  i would wait too.  but if u don't mind explaining, it's ok
22:23 < mcallan> (my own head is spinning, thinking about how all this stuff interacts.  but maybe i just need some zzzz's)
22:25 < mcallan> tomorrow i should have Mann on my dev wiki for u to test
22:45 < conseo> ok, cool
23:46 < conseo> i am off for today, cu tomorrow
23:53 < mcallan> me2, cu
--- Log closed Tue Sep 25 00:00:13 2012