--- Log opened Thu Aug 30 00:00:10 2012 02:23 < mcallan> conseo: the rest? you're not planning to reformat the source code, are you? 02:26 < mcallan> conseo: also, let me know if you need the _ package moved to g. i can do it, if you like 11:44 < conseo> mcallan: i will reformat the code i am working on automatically through eclipse to java convention, but with only spaces as you wish 11:46 < conseo> i would like to separate packages in different build packages (with maven only), to get a better separation and clear understanding of dependencies. 11:46 < mcallan> never used eclipse. it won't auto re-format every file you work on, will it? 11:47 < conseo> i have configured it that way for the moment, because my coding style can be improved and i will stick to conventions for that 11:47 < conseo> i can disable it again 11:47 < conseo> but i would like to be able to use it if i need to 11:48 < mcallan> hopefully it has format-now function, as opposed to the auto one? 11:49 * mcallan doesn't want his own files eclipsified 11:52 < conseo> it is not eclipsified it is java-convetionlized :-D http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/codeconvtoc-136057.html 11:53 < conseo> i won't reformat your files. period. i'll have a look at how to do it 11:53 < conseo> no big issue 11:55 < conseo> i also will keep eclipse stuff out of the repo, only maven will be added, which can be run from command line or else-where and has nothing to do with eclipse 11:56 < mcallan> cool, max freedom for all 11:57 < conseo> yep 11:58 < conseo> the issue with votorola._ is not really clear to me though, in general i have a problem with understanding what each package does in respect to the others 11:59 < conseo> i don't understand the dependencies and maven allows me to factor packages into modules. 11:59 < conseo> i have tried to do so with votorola.a.diff.harvest as nothing outside of it depends on it, except HarvestWAP and VOHarvest 12:00 < conseo> only to learn that WAP hardcodes to HarvestWAP 12:01 < mcallan> we have only one java module (jar). in future g might be factored out as separate jar, and i try to ensure it depends on nothing else. that's all 12:02 < mcallan> a g s etc. are not modules, just directories. #1 purpose is clarity of design 12:02 < conseo> well, yes i know. but this is mostly due to the build system. it would be easy to move parts of the code base to different modules and then better undestand where your dependencies are, when you work on code 12:02 < conseo> you also can work on single modules 12:02 < conseo> well sure, i want clarity 12:03 < conseo> a and g are very general names while count, trust and so on are relatively independant packages 12:03 < conseo> what i mean is independant functionality 12:04 < conseo> i don't want to rearrange the code base, i would just like to have packages which i can symlink to different maven modules 12:05 < conseo> for this some dependencies or split ups might be necessary and i wanted to ask you if you have objections 12:06 < conseo> i will tell you before i commit something like that so you can object 12:06 < conseo> but if you don't like to modularize the code base in general, than this might be a waste of time 12:07 < mcallan> i don't understand your concept of 'modularize'. i have lots of exp in component software dev, but components are deployment constructs. they are not design abstractions 12:10 < conseo> i am rather talking about dependency management. atm. i don't really now which code will be effected if i do a change somewhere (like e.g. the WAP component depending directly on HarvestWAP). if i have different modules in the build i can define dependencies between them and then define interfaces to simplify dependencies. this is what apache at least does with its bla.blub.* interface bla.blub.impl.* implementation 12:10 < conseo> separations 12:10 < conseo> i don't need anything from you in fact. this looks like i am disturbing the whole code base or workflow, which i will not 12:16 < mcallan> i don't understand the problem. it's not one that's bitten me yet. but you're saying yoy don't need me to understand... 12:16 < mcallan> so it's cool 12:28 < mcallan> it's the end of my day c, i think i'll go for a run... 12:32 < conseo> ok, enjoy the late summer atmosphere :-) 12:34 < mcallan> thank u! till soon... cu --- Log closed Fri Aug 31 00:00:27 2012