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00:07 < conseo> well, maybe it works
09:58 < conseo> mcallan: what are you currently working on?
10:41 < mcallan> vote track + difference bridge interactivity.  nearly done
10:42 < mcallan> apropos bill hamilton from "all watched over": http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/aug/18/edward-wilson-harvard-biologist-interview
13:27 < conseo> interesting, i haven't too much knowledge about biology, although i loved chemistry and had my own student learning laboratory. i know dawkins of course, because of his hardcore-liberal vision of nature and his claimed atheism (which is socially speaken rather primitive and doesn
13:27 < conseo> t explain society
13:29 < conseo> apropos difference bridge. the layout i proposed is somehow already implemented in the version comparison of mediawiki: http://u.zelea.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=User%3A4consensus_WebDe%2FHarvester%2FPlanning%2FRequirements&action=historysubmit&diff=5893&oldid=5875
13:33 < conseo> i have some problems with modelling nature though, because each model is already drafted by society and might not claim its foundations (natural ground), without becoming a tautology and at the same time having problems with the fact of its own theory and the consequence that each natural law would then be reflected and we would therefore  not follow its nature anymore...
13:35 < conseo> but darwinism, as marx has put it although he has supported the idea of evolution for nature, is merely a projection of manchester capitalism society on nature. the competition already being the main force without mercy was already known to darwin because it developped in his very time
13:38 < conseo> you can not explain a lot with selfishness, except you always model it in a way that it creates the present society, because somehow everybody has got the selfish "profit". yet that explains nothing and can only be applied from outside on society. it is somewhat like the cubicle society you described (which has some analogies with modern liberalism and liberal society  [each one being a selfish individual monade only
13:38 < conseo>  communicating through selfish actions with others, as hayek projects his pessimist idealism])
13:40 < conseo> that doesn't disqualify the very important natural studies (they are necessary to find out and you have to speculate about relations there), only what they claim to explain in total
14:30 < mcallan> you can diff any pages with mediawiki, but cannot patch.  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#View_and_render
15:11 < conseo> yes, i just recognized that they use a similar layout
15:21 < conseo> mcallan: have you worked with maven?
15:21 < conseo> it looks like the most streamlined option
16:06 < mcallan> not really, though i sometimes had to deal with it (wicket uses it)
17:17 < conseo> the next version will be 0.3
17:17 < conseo> right?
17:20 < conseo> maven manages dependencies itself (which should not be a problem for a separate build process, but it fetches them online)
17:33 < mcallan> can't really predict next v, only cut v's these days when someone asks
17:35 < mcallan> but mini-beta will prob. be 0.3
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