--- Log opened Wed Jan 11 00:00:30 2012
11:54 < conseo> mcallan: ok
11:55 < conseo> mcallan: i have voted for stephen and wanted to propse a change today. is this still on your radar?
11:56 < mcallan> thanks c.  yes, there is still some hope for it :-)
11:56 < conseo> ok
12:00 < conseo> mcallan: this poll is about governing rules, not about open voting, right?
12:01 < conseo> or is this the generic entry text?
12:15 < mcallan> conseo: about governing rules for the working group
12:17 < conseo> what background info do i need about working groups?
12:22 < mcallan> they are these things: http://www.nycga.net/groups/
12:22 < mcallan> i don't know a lot about the rules for them, but they are like commitees for the GA
12:23 < mcallan> they have special privelges in flooring proposals, getting funding, and stuff
12:24 < mcallan> don't worry too much about the details, they probably aren't important
12:25 < conseo> ok
12:36 < conseo> mcallan: so may i add "All non-anonymous voting mechanisms [https://wiki.occupy.net/wiki/Open_Voting_Network#OVN|share voter registers and vote counts]."?
13:25 < mcallan> steve won't know what you mean, but you could...
13:26 < mcallan> conseo: otoh, there is no actual need to make change, unless you disagree with something
13:27 < mcallan> point is to reach agreement
13:28 < conseo> yes, but it has no content yet
13:36 < mcallan> well, your vote allows us to expand the content to 30 words, if we're sticklers for the rule...
13:38 < mcallan> but the more content, the harder to reach agreement
13:39 < mcallan> but it's not worth putting serious brain power into, because that forum is likely to be removed next week
13:41 < mcallan> we need to learn the practice of consensus making ourselves.  it's not easy, and it's half the purpose of doing alpha trials (it's not all about tools and software, ofc)
13:42 < mcallan> but unless others participate, this is going to be a very short lesson.  we have already spent too much time on it, today
13:44 < mcallan> conseo: my fault tho.  the answer to your Q is, "yes, ofc it's OK to add content"
17:28 < mcallan> conseo: ok for you if i upgrade to jdk 1.7
17:28 < mcallan> ?
17:35 < conseo> sure
17:35 < conseo> good new apis
17:42 < mcallan> ok, cool
19:44 < conseo> mcallan: stephen likes the update, do you too? http://www.nycga.net/groups/ovn/forum/topic/open-voting-network-initiative/?#post-17320
19:46 < conseo> you could vote for me (and close the circle of consent) (?)
20:02 < mcallan> conseo: i ain't gonna argue with my only 2 voters ;-)
20:04 < conseo> arguing is the most interesting part of the process :-)
--- Log closed Thu Jan 12 00:00:46 2012