--- Log opened Thu Dec 01 00:00:43 2011
02:27 < Amgine> Michael Allan?
02:28 < Amgine> Ah, mcallan. <shrug> Have a good day then.
08:24 < conseo> mcallan: what is your status with occupy? have read the thread with sam boyer and i am a bit disappointed/frustrated... this overall pragmatic approach to something as ever slipping away under history and further reflections like a social medium is just seen as something to quickly hackup as a social network
08:26 < conseo> he doesn't even understand the problem of sock puppets and verifyable registers (how this is different from all other social media), but he simply leaves it open and says the future will fix it and FGA will be open
08:27 < conseo> partisan again. instead of at least coming together and define some basis for voting tools, cooperation is denied from the start with the argument that they know better anyway and without talking about the problems
08:29 < conseo> and even for a social network platform (which was known already and oriented on twitter, facebook...) like diaspora, it took 220 grants and over two years of development from more than 5 graduated devs
08:33 < conseo> but this was only the perception from reading this thread
15:03 < conseo> mcallan: do you need a harvester for the ga forums?
16:25 < mcallan> conseo: i don't think we need a harvester yet, because xf isn't involved.  hopefully we can work up to that
16:26 < mcallan> we're working through usability issues, per my latest to v list
16:26 < mcallan> sam doesn't represent occupy, he's just speaking for himself and his own project
16:27 < mcallan> (but i haven't read the lists yet, today)
17:59 < conseo_web> mcallan: ok
18:16 < conseo_web> mcallan: what is the general status with occupy?
18:18 < mcallan> looks promising.  i'm answering thomasvonderelbe now offlist.  if we put effort in, we will get alpha users and developers
18:18 < mcallan> i will cc you, thomas won't mind
18:24 < mcallan> done
18:28 < conseo_web> cool, thx
19:07 < conseo_web> you have new users interested which you would like to point to the list?
19:16 < mcallan> not sure what we have that's concrete. lots of work, that's for sure!  i'm trying to find people to help with the work (more than you could possibly do, when in school).  that's what it comes down to, i guess.  very hopeful
20:40 < conseo> sad, but true
21:47 < conseo> mcallan: but anyway it was never the two of us in totality, so the sooner people join the sooner rac will improve and i can focus on it (or sth. else)
22:56 < conseo> mcallan: gn8 and keep up the good work. i can sleep better knowing you work on it :-)
23:14 < mcallan> never fear! the time is ripe, even a clumsy oaf like me can make progress ;-)
23:15 < mcallan> n8 c
--- Log closed Fri Dec 02 00:00:59 2011