--- Log opened Wed Nov 30 00:00:28 2011
15:12 < conseo> mcallan: pietro mentioned that needs can be set in plans as well
15:12 < conseo> mcallan: isn't that covered by the resource framework (targets) as well?
17:02 < mcallan> conseo: yes, i guess it's similar.  specifically the RAC *fulfills* needs, regardless of how/where they are set/expressed
19:33 < conseo> mcallan: what do you think abou this: http://digifesto.com/2011/09/09/open-source-is-softwares-labor-movement/
20:49 < mcallan> conseo: i guess that's true for anyone who sells labour for money, not just software developers
20:49 < mcallan> but open source isn't the only alternative ofc, you can simply work for yourself
20:50 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe: you still on irc these days, thomas?
20:50 < conseo> right, but personally, do you think it is also economically sound to focus on open source development or is the job outlook not as positive as projected
20:50 < conseo> ?
20:50 < conseo> mcallan: see also http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/29/open_source_and_the_job_market/
20:51 < conseo> i won't change my foss focus anyway, but my perception might be an illusion
20:53 < mcallan> i'm not sure what goal ur positing. make money? learn skills?
20:54 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe, conseo: they have an official-looking global occupy wiki, and i'm trying to get bridge footings into it: https://lists.takethesquare.net/pipermail/occupy-dev/2011-December/000145.html
20:56 < mcallan> (i'm so far from the money side, these days, i can't give good advice.  i only think about technology)
20:57 < conseo> mcallan: is foss a serious employment perspective from your experience?
21:00 < mcallan> smart employers want good developers, that's all.  i don't think it matters much whether your experience is in foss, or propietary stuff
21:02 < conseo> ok
--- Log closed Thu Dec 01 00:00:43 2011