--- Log opened Fri Oct 21 00:00:25 2011
06:46 < conseo> mcallan: you always link the sandbox poll, but it hasn't anything in the feed, which makes xf look a bit boring imo G/p/prz has messages in the feed
16:09 < mcallan> conseo: i guess we should put some messages in the feed for G/p/sandbox.  it's got all the votes
16:09 < conseo> mcallan: yes
16:14 < conseo> mcallan: should i write a sql script to insert feed data for any poll? is this the right place or should i fake it in the frontend?
16:15 < mcallan> let's not fake the sandbox messages c, let's just put a few real ones in.  cause we don't need hundreds of them or anything (not like the votes)
16:17 < mcallan> thomas's demo uses the sandbox
16:17 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe: if you could update your demo, i would love to put it on the home page
16:23 < conseo> yes he did a good job on the screencasts
16:23 < conseo> thomasvonderelbe: also document the process of screencasting on the wiki if you can, so we can get consistent documentation
16:52 < conseo> mcallan: am i really supposed to replicate votespaces functionality in the trackstack for embedded views? this is really difficult without showing a lot of additional information. you ciriticized my hover, but I need a HUD or it will be too little information
16:53 < conseo> this design issue is more than the trackstack then... as you have said it, it touches votespace and the toolbar.
16:54 < conseo> i am bit confused, because i need the hud or i am out of ideas to show the relevant information *and* allow browsing the vote tree from the trackstack-only view
16:55 < conseo> hmmm, thinking and trying to figure it out...
16:55 < mcallan> i agree embedded views are different, not only for tracks but for other parts of resource view.  often some functionality is impossible or undesireable
16:56 < mcallan> but i think you will have HUD in embedded view
16:56 < conseo> i think that we need not allow vote tree browsing in the embedded view. a fixed position is likely enough and then we link to votespace?
16:57 < mcallan> in any case, i would *not* allow navigation uptree/downtree in embedded view (disabled function) because without votespace it will be confusing
16:57 < conseo> hehe. ok :-)
16:57 < mcallan> oh, i see i am agreeing...
16:57 < mcallan> (you said "embedded", ok)
16:58 < mcallan> right, exactly
16:58 < conseo> good
16:59 < mcallan> still raises design problems, at the points of difference between the two views (embedded or votespace) but they do not look like showstoppers
16:59 < mcallan> like *i think* hover should show almost no info (just maybe username) and click should show all info, but...
17:00 < mcallan> click behaviour will be different in embedded view.  it will (i guess) select the segment/cell, instead of navigating uptree
17:02 < mcallan> (such differences increase design complexity, and are unfortunate - best to avoid, but not always possible)
17:03 < conseo> yes, exactly
17:03 < conseo> need to bang my head a bit against the wall, maybe i can come up with a constent proposal
--- Log closed Sat Oct 22 00:00:41 2011