--- Log opened Sun Oct 16 00:00:24 2011
07:47 < conseo> i put it simply this way. we disagree about priorities and about engagement (not necessary we too, but everybody on the list). do i have to ask for your permission to try out ebp or can I simply try it out?
09:58 < mcallan> you can try it out c, no need for me to understand up front.  i will watch from sidelines, till i understand
10:05 < conseo> ok
10:06 < conseo> how is theory going?
10:08 < mcallan> ok, latest talk is with apsa, mostly offlist. http://zelea.com/project/autonomy/a/fau/fau.xht#H
11:16 < conseo> apsa?
11:20 < conseo> thomasvonderelbe: ping
11:39  * conseo is off for a siesta
--- Log opened Sun Oct 16 13:20:16 2011
14:26 < mcallan> conseo: nice. the latest set of mockups is another leap forward, quite intriguing.
14:36 < conseo> mcallan: i get a "mouse arm" :-)
14:38 < conseo> have you seen the memento?
14:38 < conseo> :-)
14:51 < mcallan> not sure, i only took a quick look and made a note to study it more tonight.  but it's mostly the first impression that matters here, so i don't hesitate in saying it's definitely moved forward
15:06 < conseo> ok
17:49 < conseo> The situation of an actual, modern society is unlike either of these two extremes.
17:49 < conseo>     Although the electoral system formally enforces (1) the separation of person from
17:49 < conseo>     vote, no part of society attempts to enforce (2) the separation of persons; rather the
17:49 < conseo>     contrary.
17:49 < conseo> i would say that mass media do split society and there are many splitting forces. i have to think about it, but i don't think that this fault in the system is an accident
19:58 < mcallan> conseo: you're right i think.  i tightened it up: Although the electoral system formally enforces (1) the separation of person from vote, no part of society enforces (2) the separation of persons.
19:58 < conseo> ok
19:59 < mcallan> i'm kind of burned out c, from too much email chatter (mostly theory stuff).  if i'm slow in replying to your mockups, plz don't be offended.
20:00 < mcallan> i need to focus on text work, only way to recover
20:01 < mcallan> (it's not for lack of interest)
20:11 < conseo> ok, no problem
20:17 < mcallan> thx c, i'm off for a while
20:17 < mcallan> till soon
20:57 < conseo> till soon
--- Log closed Mon Oct 17 00:00:22 2011