--- Log opened Sat Oct 01 00:00:27 2011
00:04 < conseo> if this is the worst typo you ever made, then you are pretty good typist
00:04 < conseo> a pretty :-)
00:12 < mcallan> hey i got skills. ;-) i'm not just another pretty face
00:14 < conseo> LOL
00:15 < conseo> i am off for the day
00:15 < conseo> cu tomorrow, hopefully with some answers :-p
00:19 < mcallan> i'll have a look tonight when this section is drafted, and reply as soon as i can
00:19 < mcallan> n8
00:31 < conseo> n8
02:03 < thomasvonderelbe> conseo: Hey Conseo, I'm back! :-)
02:04 < thomasvonderelbe> mcallan: are u still there awake?
02:27 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe: hey thomas, i'm still up
02:28 < thomasvonderelbe> mcallan: ah, can I call you again in a bit?
02:29 < thomasvonderelbe> I think I solved the riddle
02:29 < mcallan> ok
02:29 < thomasvonderelbe> ok
02:30 < mcallan> i'll turn on the skypo-machine...
02:45 < mcallan> hey guys, check this out: http://livingproofbrewcast.com/2011/05/open-source-beer-fellowship/
02:45 < mcallan> "Beer is Living Proof that God Loves Us and Wants Us to be Happy." - Benjamin Franklin
02:46 < mcallan> conseo: forget about open source ecology, let's work with these guys!
10:10 < conseo> huuuh, thomasvonderelbe i am really happy that you are back! just the right time for me :-D
10:11 < conseo> mcallan: lol, last summer, before joining you i had a look into studying beer brewing. it is definetly a fine product to work on :-)
10:16 < conseo> thomasvonderelbe: have you had a look at my trackstack mockups (votorola list)?
10:19 < conseo> mcallan: i had the same open source beer idea back then and thought about "open source beer". looks like opensourcing is everywhere atm. and the idea comes of our contemporary historical changes
10:20 < conseo> everywhere i look i see opensource efforts (if i search for them)
10:20 < conseo> beer is definetly one of the coolest and most compelling projects: no argument needed :-D
16:05 < mcallan> conseo_: i'm impressed by your design effort on these tracks!  i can see the reasoning behind it, and its really quite beautiful.  but i will say my say to the list...
16:07 < conseo_> mcallan: ok, good that my ideas are finally after all the starting problems :-D alex critique hasn't helped me a lot yet and i think that there are many more "undiscovered" ways out there
16:10 < mcallan> yes, it's the discovery that's fun.  you found stuff i never thought of here, which makes the design effort very attractive.  i draft my post...
16:42 < conseo_> ok
16:42 < conseo_> mcallan: i have answered to alex already (nth special though)
16:44 < mcallan> (see the list too, because i posted his msg)
17:05 -!- conseo_ is now known as conseo
17:06 < conseo> ah ok
18:41 < conseo> mcallan: book looks indeed helpful. have never read any ui book before. will have a look at it
19:01 < conseo> how do i approach alex correctly. i see little value in alex comments, because they focus on minor details from my perspective. thinking about his arguments it feels like i am doing advertisement and i don't think that avatars are really important in *this* ui
19:02 < conseo> mcallan: i would simply tell him to cut himself short and that he doesn't try to address our need for a sane ui, but rather minor details, but then this is insulting and might be unfair
19:02 < conseo> i just don't have the time to argue about avatars, when there is simply no space for them
19:03 < conseo> only cheap social networks (which completely focus upon each social profile and everything else is just glue) are strong in avatars. the more important content and a common goal becomes the less prominent is a social profile
19:04 < conseo> or lets put it this way: we visualize a consent, while they visualize lose individuals profiling *themselves*
19:23 < conseo> this is all bling arguments for me, which not even take the problem to visualize into account
19:25 < conseo> but then he is not wrong of course, it just feels like we misunderstand each other and a lot of the stuff he says is pretty clear to me...
19:25 < conseo> never mind, i'll figure it out somehow
--- Log closed Sun Oct 02 00:00:43 2011