--- Log opened Thu Sep 29 00:00:55 2011
00:48 < mcallan> conseo: yes, but not sure when.  it depends on how the initial drafting goes, and what quality of critique it gets from experts
00:48 < mcallan> n8, cu tomorrow
10:25 < conseo> ok
13:19 < conseo> mcallan: ping
13:23 < mcallan> conseo: pong
13:30 < conseo> mcallan: can you have a look at my corrected mockups? they are trackstack-proto{2-4}.svg in zelea.com/home/c
13:30 < conseo> ?
13:33 < conseo> and trackstack-proto5.svg for loss
13:36 < conseo> some small glitches and not all my ideas, but for a start this is ok, right?
13:36 < mcallan> before i look c, why not post to the list? v list is best i think.  most likely only i will reply, but no matter.  later, others will reply too
13:37 < mcallan> on thing...
13:37 < conseo> maybe, but last time i had so many glitches i didn't see, that i wanted to know if this is ok for posting
13:37 < mcallan> *one* thing...
13:37 < conseo> no more
13:37 < conseo> i don't want a full feedback
13:37 < conseo> i will post to the list then
13:37 < mcallan> that's just what i was going to suggest...
13:37 < mcallan> i mean...
13:37 < mcallan> probably you have some doubt...
13:38 < mcallan> most likely, one of your doubts stands out from the rest...
13:38 < conseo> it does, but it hasn't todo with the trackstack directly :-D
13:39 < mcallan> that's ok - post what you have (*if* you feel stuck) and ...
13:39 < mcallan> voice that one doubt, and no other
13:39 < mcallan> also, ensure (in one or two sentences) that people understand the purpose of the track stack
13:40 < mcallan> just those three things: purpose, visual itself, your one doubt
13:40 < conseo> ok
13:40 < mcallan> that will maximize the chance of getting useful feedback, and...
13:41 < mcallan> well, that's all
13:41 < mcallan> lol
13:41 < conseo> ok
13:41 < conseo> can you just have a quick look at one of them and tell me if eliminates all of your original criticism so far?
13:42 < mcallan> you mean points 1,2,3 crit?
13:42 < conseo> all points
13:42 < mcallan> phew!
13:43 < conseo> well they were just glitches
13:43 < mcallan> you do not know the answers, yourself?
13:43 < conseo> no it's ok, i post then
13:43 < mcallan> trust your own judgement, first
13:44 < mcallan> ask others only when you are stuck
13:44 < conseo> mmh, now you contradict yourself :-D. my last proposals all got a lot of criticism from you and nobody else (which is perfectly fine)
13:44 < mcallan> ok
13:44 < conseo> it is ok atm. though i think
13:45 < mcallan> what is contradiction?
13:45 < mcallan> never mind my contradiction, no matter...
13:45 < conseo> that i have to get it right to get valuable feedback on the one hand and on the hander that i just be self-confident...
13:45 < conseo> but it is ok
13:46 < mcallan> you don't have to get it right...
13:46 < mcallan> oh, you mean 1,2,3?
13:46 < conseo> but i haven't got feedback, so i got it wrong and you told me your experiences. that was helpful and necessary
13:46 < conseo> no problem, trackstack topic finished :-D
13:46 < conseo> i have eliminated all points
13:47 < mcallan> or let's skype c, there may be some misunderstanding
13:47 < conseo> should i embed the proposals as a raster graphic file in xhtml like you do?
13:47 < conseo> nope, but i would like to skype to you anyway
13:48 < mcallan> ok, turning on skype box
16:48 < conseo> mcallan: Lighthouse design was the family profession: Thomas's own father (Robert's grandfather) was the famous Robert Stevenson
19:58 < mcallan> the story of how he (robert) built the bell rock lighthouse is fascinating
23:49 < conseo> ok
23:49 < conseo> mcallan: i have some ideas but i am not stuck at drawing and out of inspiration for now. i'll have to rethink tomorrow and hopefully be able to post then
23:50 < conseo> s/not/now :-)
23:52 < conseo> i'll go to bed
23:52 < conseo> n8
--- Log closed Fri Sep 30 00:00:11 2011