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09:01 < conseo> mcallan: have you ever thought about what happens with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_sands ?
09:03 < conseo> it is the biggest rainforest destruction of north america, a giant generator of toxic waste in all rivers around it and it destroys big parts of your home country. it also is insane to use 1/2 barrel of energy and many barrels of fresh water to generate one barrel of oil
09:03 < conseo> as far as i have seen it is similiar to destruction of the rainforest in brasil in its dimensions
09:13 < mcallan> conseo: I agree it's no eco-project by any stretch. But energy and natural resources are provincial affairs, and Alberta is populated by socially conservative cowboys. not to mention, those cowboys are currently in office in Ottawa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Manning
09:17 < conseo> hmm
09:18 < mcallan> actually, this is the chief cowboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper
09:19 < conseo> the forest is screwed
09:21 < conseo> mcallan: but i have seen that there are some environmentalist struggles there (and indigineous people are also involved) which matter not only to canada, but (because of the rain forest) to all environmentalists around the world
09:21 < conseo> so i thought that this might be a serious issue as well
09:22 < conseo> mcallan: what is the state of the new mailing list?
09:22 < conseo> only two weeks and a few days left until end of exams :-D
09:24 < mcallan> there is opposition to the tar sands, but the US wants oil and Albertans want to sell it to them.
09:25 < mcallan> i better get busy and code this resource stuff, so you have something to look at
09:30 -!- You're now known as mcallan
09:34 < conseo> mcallan: have you got my messages?
09:36 < mcallan> what messages c?
09:36 < mcallan> i was cut off freenode for a minute or 2
09:38 < conseo> my last one was: it is also insane to put in half a barrel to gain another barrel, it really lacks any rationality and future prove(ness(???)
09:40 < mcallan> i know. they only do it when the price of oil is sky high. ofc, they don't put in half a barrel (too expensive!) but equivalent other energy
09:44 < mcallan> this will be our new list: http://mail.zelea.com/list/votorola/
09:45 < mcallan> can you see that?
23:22 < mcallan> conseo: join the list when you get a chance. i somehow missed your Q above, but the list is up and running! url is above
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