--- Log opened Thu Feb 16 00:00:02 2012
06:00 -!- davycw_ is now known as davycw
10:39 < scor> sdboyer: other people are working on the RDF data federation http://dbooth.org/2011/pipeline/Booth_David-pipelines.pdf
10:40 < scor> I actually know David Booth, and will be at SemTech San Francisco in June where he is planning to present his work, so looks like this should answer a lot of our questions
10:41 < scor> sdboyer: see slide 5: No central server or controller - Each node acts independently
10:42 < scor> this approach also talks about data pipeline, but in our case it could be very simple if all nodes use the same data model
11:00 < sdboyer> scor: interesting...yeah i'm gonna have to rely on your judgment about the feasibility f such things :)
11:00 < scor> sure
11:01 < scor> we're cutting edge, that's exciting
11:01 < sdboyer> so long as it's not bleeding edge, i'm all for that :)
11:01 < sdboyer> but yeah, cutting edge is good, and important - it's part of my strategy for generating interest in and free work for the project :P
11:01 < scor> A while back I thought whether we could use git for this sort of things (the fact that it only transfers updates and handles merges), but not sure it would work...
11:01 < sdboyer> heh
11:02 < sdboyer> lots of interesting stuff to potentially explore there, but
11:02 < scor> and we get secure transfer over ssh for free
11:02 < sdboyer> yep
11:02 < sdboyer> actually, back when heyrocker was originally writing deploy
11:02 < sdboyer> i was also at palantir at that point
11:02 < scor> I actually use that personally for backing up my sites, and benefit from a decentralized backup infrastructrure
11:02 < sdboyer> and i argued with him for a while about storage and transport mechanisms. i wanted to pass it over git, he wanted (and ended up doing it) with some extra tables + services
11:02 < scor> with as many nodes as I want
11:03 < sdboyer> with git? yup, can do lovely things that way
11:03 < scor> ah ah!
11:03 < scor> yeah!
11:03 < scor> I never ended up writing a blog post about it, but I should
11:03 < sdboyer> would be a good blog post for sure
11:03 < scor> I wrote a drush extension for it though http://github.com/scor/dgb
11:03 < sdboyer> yeah i couldn't really follow up the argument with greg b/c i was just starting my master's program
11:04 < sdboyer> so reduced my time at the office. i sometimes wonder how things would've gone if i hadn't done that stupid master's and had actually followed that argument to its conclusion
11:04 < scor> what master's did you do?
11:04 < scor> lol
11:05 < sdboyer> never finished it, but, university of chicago's master of arts program in the social sciences
11:05 < scor> CS?
11:05 < sdboyer> interdiscinplinary
11:05 < scor> I see
11:05 < sdboyer> nope, i've no formal CS training whatsoever :)
11:06 < scor> kind of same here (though I have electronic engineering, which is close)
11:06 < sdboyer> ah yeah, i don't even have an engineering background
11:06 < sdboyer> closest i get is linguistics
11:06 < scor> strangely I find those with no CS background to do better than most of those who have CS background
11:06 < sdboyer> heh, i often find the same
11:07 < scor> look at catch for example - webchick too maybe
11:07 < sdboyer> though that might just be that i get along better with them :P
11:07 < scor> :)
11:07 < sdboyer> larry is the exception though
11:07 < sdboyer> i love that kid
11:07 < sdboyer> i miss working right next to him
11:07 < scor> yes was thinking crell is the odd one here
11:07 < scor> ;)
11:07 < sdboyer> for all his flaws :P
11:07 < sdboyer> it's true
11:07 < sdboyer> dries doesn't write code anymore...so he doesn't count :P
11:08 < scor> he's got PhD in CS though (java)
11:08 < sdboyer> yep, hence me discounting him
11:08 < scor> yeah he's out the game
11:08 < sdboyer> that's gotta hurt
11:08 < scor> heh
11:08 < sdboyer> i really feel the need to bounce between high-level planning and actually writing code
11:08 < sdboyer> after too much time of doing one or the other, i feel like i'm missin gout
11:08 < scor> oh, so you still like coding!
11:08 < sdboyer> code is actually *building* shit
11:08 < sdboyer> absolutely
11:09 < sdboyer> man i got into engineering in the first place because i was a crazy activisty organizer
11:09 < scor> yeah same here, I feel like I'm wasting my time if I'm not building something...
11:09 < sdboyer> and i was tired of working on intangible shit that didn't have outcomes
11:09 < scor> right
11:09 < sdboyer> that i could...err, touch and feel
11:09 < sdboyer> that was part of it anyway
11:09 < sdboyer> so i get a VERY visceral satisfaction from, yes, building things
11:09 < scor> cool
11:09 < sdboyer> i *need* it, at least periodically
12:05 < Senpai> "Cutting Edge means you're the one swinging the sharp blade. Bleeding Edge means you're too far out in front of the swinging blade". :)
13:04 < sdboyer> Senpai: iiiindeed
14:35 < LP__> sdboyer: Word from my Amazon connection: "I don't know anyone on EC2 team but Amazon is not good at charitable stuff. Basically, they operate on thin margins and pass any/all savings onto customers. So, they don't do much charitable work and/or donate. When they do its usually literacy stuff to counter their poor reputation in the books business. Sorry..."
14:35 < sdboyer> LP__: ah ok. no worries, thanks for following up with that
14:35 < sdboyer> LP__: remind me where things are with lisa fithian?
14:36 < LP__> nonexistant, with missed opporunities, will get on that. sors
16:57 < Andrew_Mallis> Mic check.
16:58 < Andrew_Mallis> anyone able to make the directory meeting today at 7pm EST
16:58 < Andrew_Mallis> RSVP
19:02 < scor> aren't we having a hang out now?
19:20 < Amgine> <checks e-mail>
19:22 < Amgine> Andrew_Mallis canceled the ows fga directory hangout.
19:23 < Amgine> about 2.5 hours ago.
19:53 < scor> got it
20:09 < Amgine> <grin>
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