--- Log opened Tue Jan 24 00:00:55 2012
00:15 < Andrew_Mallis> --
00:36 < sdboyer> walkah: btw, i'm talkin to scor tomorrow - after which i'm hoping to have some damn clue about how to make this syndication/federation/protocols discussion happen in a productive way
00:52 < sdboyer> hey look, another peace/justice social network! http://www.lokashakti.org
00:52 < sdboyer> lol
00:53 < sdboyer> poor guys
02:30 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: Darcy Cunningham & eScribe-- obviously concerned with meeting spaces. Have you reached out again?
04:30 -!- LP_ is now known as LP_ZZzz
16:49 < Andrew_Mallis> http://trust.edelman.com/
18:27 < Andrew_Mallis> Directory meeting ETA 30 minutes
18:55 < Andrew_Mallis> hangout is up
18:57 < Senpai> So, are we hang in' today, or what?
19:02  * Senpai hangs with Andrew and trevor
19:03 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: directory meeting starting?
19:03 < Andrew_Mallis> yes
19:03 < sdboyer> because you'll want to add scor :)
19:03 < Andrew_Mallis> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/ideograph.ca/fga
19:03 < Andrew_Mallis> can u?
19:03 < sdboyer> he's made me so happy i could crap my pants right now
19:04 < sdboyer> still on the phoen with him, one sec
19:04  * Senpai hands sdboyer a new pair of pants, just in case.
19:04 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: he's basically offered to run "semantics and syndication"
19:04 < sdboyer> seriously. just about peeing right now with excitement
19:07  * sdboyer cheers at scor
19:07 < scor> sdboyer: cool
19:07 < sdboyer> at...for...some preposition
19:07 < scor> added this channel to my favorites
19:07 < sdboyer> eeeeexcellent
19:07 < Andrew_Mallis> scor: you were in, then out of the hangout?
19:08 < scor> Andrew_Mallis: yeah just joined for a minute just to see - but can't stay unfortunately
19:08 < Andrew_Mallis> ok
19:08 < scor> are all hang outs usually happening around the same time of the day?
19:10 < scor> gotta run, see you
19:19 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: ah shame, oh well
19:19 < sdboyer> i'm emailing you
19:20 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: but, short version, he'll get on the RDF schema for an occupation immediately
19:22 < mcarbone> trevortwining: http://dev.fga-directory.gotpantheon.com/occupation/us/ny/occupy-wall-street
19:24 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: btw, i don't know if i ever told you, but jacine has a big "hey frontend devs, come help the FGA project" post cocked, locked, and ready to roll whenever we feel ready to accept the help
19:24 < sdboyer> has for quite a while now
19:31 < Andrew_Mallis> cool. Liza has been radio silent since last meeting.
19:33 < sdboyer> :(
19:33 < sdboyer> i sent her an email yesterday
19:33 < sdboyer> yeah, didn't hear back
19:33 < sdboyer> i'll keep trying
19:33 < sdboyer> not gonna lose her
19:33 < sdboyer> nowaynohow
20:03 < sdboyer> crap! standup!
20:04 < Andrew_Mallis> no standup?
21:23 < Senpai> "Latest import has been done." Darn. And i *just* finished refreshing my local database from DEV, too.
21:23 < Andrew_Mallis> Senpai: the heat is on!
21:24 < Senpai> Dude, it's like runaway train. Just try to keep up.
21:24 < Senpai> I'd better get my drush aliases working locally again or I'll never be able to stay in sync with this database.
21:25  * Senpai hates Drupal
21:25 < Andrew_Mallis> my aliases never seem to fully work. haven't figured it out.
21:25 < Andrew_Mallis> drush only seems to pick them up if I put them in a site root somewhere.
21:26 < Andrew_Mallis> and even then÷
22:48 < Andrew_Mallis> I just finished rocking out the directory site scaffolding at http://dev.fga-project.gotpantheon.com/
22:50 < sdboyer> wewt!
22:50 < mbyrnes> Andrew_Mallis: awesome
22:51 < mbyrnes> !!
22:51 < mbyrnes> very very exciting
23:05 < mbyrnes> LP_: ping!
23:23 < nadavoid> Senpai: ping
23:23 < LP_> <burp>
23:23 < Senpai> nadavoid: pong
23:23 < nadavoid> Hey all, sorry I missed the calls today.
23:23 < Senpai> Wait, you weren't there?
23:23 < nadavoid> Senpai: shut up
23:23  * Senpai is kidding
23:24 < nadavoid> :) me too
23:24 < Senpai> sup?
23:24 < nadavoid> Senpai: I'm fleshing out some more of the data representation stuff (RSS, Atom, etc.) and of course using views.
23:25 < nadavoid> So there are getting to be a *lot* of displays in this one Occupations Directory view.
23:25  * Senpai transitions to FGA Views
23:25 < Senpai> too true.
23:26 < nadavoid> So I was thinking of having two views: one for the presentation, and one for the feeds.
23:26 < nadavoid> Senpai: I'm not sure how truly connected they would need to be. What do you think?
23:27 < Senpai> nadavoid: Hmmm. What's the advantage to two? And can we still contain that in a single Feature without Feature Collision?
23:27 < nadavoid> Senpai: Theoretically, the CSV export has a setting to inherit filters of the main view. But I tested it and it doesn't work.
23:27 < Senpai> ugh.
23:28 < nadavoid> Senpai: Yeah you can definitely have the two views in a single feature or in two separate features, without collision.
23:28 < Senpai> So we need a separate View in order to properly construct a query for RSS/Atom/RDFa?
23:29  * Senpai envisions Views outputting RDF ;)
23:29 < Senpai> Ok, so we have one View for Output(s), and one for Displays. That's not bad, right?
23:29 < nadavoid> Senpai: not required, but more of a safety net and differentiating visual versus machine-oriented stuff.
23:29 < nadavoid> Advantages: avoiding the "oops I meant to do that only for this one display"
23:30 < Senpai> yes, EXACTLY.
23:30 < Andrew_Mallis> we can also order our fields differently
23:30 < Senpai> Multiple fingers in the project == more separationz.
23:30 < nadavoid> also avoiding having 20 displays in one view. although we might get close even on the machine side
23:31 < Andrew_Mallis> + if Senpai is going to rewrite some data fields for the table view, makes sense to have this split
23:31 < Senpai> Oh, good point! We'll actually *need* to do that for page displays vs. RSS.
23:31 < Senpai> See, here comes Andrew to nail the lid on the coffin.
23:31 < Senpai> We have to have two Views.
23:32 < nadavoid> cool cool
23:32 < nadavoid> we have 4 machine oriented displays, and one human oriented display currently. I vote for moving the human one into a new view.
23:32 < Andrew_Mallis> nadavoid: +1
23:32 < Senpai> Seems too logical. ;)
23:33 < Senpai> +1
23:33 < nadavoid> Thank you all, for not making me re-add those 30ish fields all over again! :)
23:35  * Senpai was thinking of that. Not in a copy/paste kind of way, either
23:36 < Senpai> Reading material for the night: http://drupal.org/sandbox/tomfriedhof/1412412
23:36 < Andrew_Mallis> nadavoid: noticing the default RSS throws divs and mark-up in there.
23:37 < Senpai> Andrew, please don't tell @mortendk about that markup. He'll start a Viking Crusade to end it. ;)
23:37 < Andrew_Mallis> and I'm also thinking maybe we need some extra modules: rss creator, rss category, rss enclosure, georss
23:37 < nadavoid> Andrew_Mallis: yeah, I have it pulling in the full node display right now.
23:38 < Andrew_Mallis> Senpai: Yeah, I don't have enough beer in my fridge to win that argument
23:38 < nadavoid> Andrew_Mallis: Could you drop a note about those modules in the issue? (109) I'm sure I won't be digging to that tonight.
23:39 < Andrew_Mallis> nadavoid: ok. I'm going to add and commit them. I'm in site building mode right now.
23:39 < nadavoid> Andrew_Mallis: nice
23:39 < Andrew_Mallis> Just tossed out our FGA project site scaffolding
23:39 < Andrew_Mallis> http://dev.fga-project.gotpantheon.com/
23:41  * nadavoid <-- dork. Remembered he can *clone* a whole view. Then delete what isn't needed.
23:41 < Senpai> hahahaha
23:41  * Senpai clicks
23:42 < Senpai> wow, cool
23:42  * Andrew_Mallis didn't want to nail that coffin
23:43 < sdboyer> mbyrnes: btw, it would appear that LP_ ponged by way of burp
23:43 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis++
23:43 < LP_> yeah, sorry bout that, no mention either, bad form.
23:43 < LP_> was gonna step away for a sec and then do it proper
23:44 < mbyrnes> hey LP_ i don't get the joke...
23:44 < LP_> no joke
23:44 < mbyrnes> doh i'm an irc slow person
23:44 < sdboyer> i believe the correct orthographization is *BRAaaaaAAaaAAAAPPPP*
23:44 < mbyrnes> oh ok still don't get it
23:44 < LP_> I just get sick of "ping" "pong"
23:44 < LP_> booooooring
23:44 < mbyrnes> LP_: do you want to me on the content team with me for that site andrew just posted
23:44  * sdboyer usually just does variations on "pong"
23:44 < sdboyer> pongtastico!
23:44 < sdboyer> pongerino!
23:44 < Senpai> Why? Cause you get no ack?
23:44 < sdboyer> uberpong!
23:45 < sdboyer> yack!
23:45 < LP_> mbyrnes: I think yr missing a verb in that last bit
23:45  * sdboyer needs to go to bed, but that's still a ways off
23:45 < mbyrnes> to be!
23:45 < LP_> oh.. be
23:45 < mbyrnes> yes
23:45 < Senpai> zing!
23:45 < mbyrnes> ugh
23:45 < mbyrnes> sorry
23:45 < mbyrnes> see i need you
23:45 < LP_> site andrew just posted..
23:45 < mbyrnes> yeah project site
23:46 < mbyrnes> so we can move stuff over from the redmine, the stuff and slowly make the project site awesome
23:46 < mbyrnes> iwth more content
23:46 < LP_> huh
23:46 < Andrew_Mallis> molly wants us to eat our own dogfood
23:46 < LP_> yeah, sounds decent
23:46 < mbyrnes> sorry i was about to go to bed and now i'm literally making no sense
23:47 < sdboyer> NOM SNARF DOGGIE FOOD
23:47 < Senpai> nadavoid: Did you by chance change the default View at http://dev.fga-directory.gotpantheon.com/ by accident?
23:47 < LP_> I have been eating a lot of wiki lately...
23:47 < LP_> bland
23:47 < mbyrnes> well sdboyer wants to rearrange the info on redmine and i was like i'l help with that
23:47 < mbyrnes> as long as it's not on the wiki but moving it to the site
23:47 < mbyrnes> tickets etc great for redmine
23:47 < sdboyer> RAAAAAGHHHH
23:48 < nadavoid> Senpai: yep. probably so. I'll fix. Sorta fix anyway.
23:48 < mbyrnes> project news
23:48  * sdboyer just sends the damn email to stallman
23:48 < mbyrnes> not so much
23:48 < LP_> ya, not really even minutes..
23:48 < mbyrnes> did you sign it "loves parrots, sam"?
23:48 < Senpai> mbyrnes: What you're saying makes no sense until tomorrow dawns. That's the way the universe works. Or, at least, I read that in a magazine.
23:48 < mbyrnes> yeah LP_  so agreed
23:48 < LP_> the hardware store near my house has a parrot
23:48 < Andrew_Mallis> the project site should launch lean with just a frontage and a blog
23:49 < mbyrnes> Andrew_Mallis: yes agreed but we can still start using it for stuff and getting content over
23:49 < Andrew_Mallis> nope
23:49 < mbyrnes> why not?
23:49 < Andrew_Mallis> well…
23:49 < nadavoid> Senpai: there. all better.
23:49 < Andrew_Mallis> anything that would be a blog post
23:49 < Andrew_Mallis> but no minutes
23:49 < Andrew_Mallis> or stuff like that
23:50 < Andrew_Mallis> this is a public facing site project first
23:50 < LP_> I'm assuming you got his "thank you for writing. Your email will be processed with a batch of other correspondence in the next 24 hours"
23:50 < Andrew_Mallis> I don't want to cripple the launch with fature-itis
23:50 < LP_> hrmph. you are write
23:50 < LP_> right
23:50 < sdboyer> mbyrnes: no signature at all, in fact
23:50 < mbyrnes> Andrew_Mallis: i get that
23:50 < mbyrnes> and i agree
23:50 < sdboyer> LP_: hehehe, nope, i read that whole thing then turned it off by following the instructions
23:51 < Andrew_Mallis> I cringe every time I need to post minutes to redmine, and am soooo tempted to keep rolling on site dev. Holding back.
23:51 < sdboyer> i have a separate email chain going with him about licensing for FGA
23:51  * LP_ Frustrated with docs/files section, but rolling with punches
23:51 < mbyrnes> but eventually we want documents up there
23:51 < mbyrnes> Andrew_Mallis:  if we are all cringing at using redmine for minutes
23:51  * sdboyer is frustrated with his apparent inability to see whether there are new comments on a ticket from the list view
23:51 < LP_> Blew my mind when I found that files is intended for package releases..
23:52 < Senpai> nadavoid: Cool, TY
23:52 < nadavoid> Senpai: The views are split now, so I won't be as likely to hork up the home page.
23:52 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: which view are you at? I can fix
23:52 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: any of them, i just haven't investigated very hard at fixing it
23:52 < Senpai> LP_: "the hardware store near my house has a parrot" Send it to my house. I've always wanted a blue parrot.
23:52 < Senpai> LP_: You did say it was blue, right?
23:52 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: open the options and add "Updated to the list" then apply
23:53 < mbyrnes> he loves parrots
23:53 < LP_> Really never looked at it, just heard it talking from an aisle over when I was buying stuff. Saw the cage from the register.. green p'raps.
23:54 < mbyrnes> so fine will focus on compiling intial content for a launch site, but we need to then get a plan in place to migrate over the stuff that we don't want to be publishing on redmine
23:54 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: fixed http://projects.occupy.net/issues?query_id=9
23:56 < Senpai> nadavoid: Split Views? Perfect.
23:56 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: see that sorts by updated, but i don't think it actually keeps track of whether there are new comments i haven't seen
23:56 < sdboyer> a la d.o
23:57 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: ah, but focus instead on the positives, like how commenting on Redmine is done by pressing the "quote" button.
23:59 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: :)
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