--- Log opened Sat Jan 07 00:00:27 2012
12:50 -!- Andrew_Mallis_ is now known as Andrew_Mallis
14:30 < scottrigby> hey guys
14:30 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis: i forget, are you responsible for http://mappingthemovement.tumblr.com/ ?
14:31 < Andrew_Mallis> scottrigby: yes
14:31 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis++
14:31 < Andrew_Mallis> feel free to contribute!
14:31  * scottrigby on the hunt for images for this Tuesday's public FGA Skype chat
14:31 < scottrigby> do you have ideas about that?
14:31 < scottrigby> i'm working on a simple announcement
14:32 < Andrew_Mallis> hm. Thiago is coming back on Sun and we'll be re-assessing things
14:32 < Andrew_Mallis> from a UX perspective. Hoping to do a full day on Monday if he's available
14:32 < scottrigby> cool
14:32 < scottrigby> the announcement is on http://basekamp.com/ if you want to take a look
14:32 < Andrew_Mallis> there is also a slide deck in the works towards a mid-Jan deadline.
14:33 < scottrigby> if you have a suggestion about an initial image that would work well cropped into a square (see how the first event has no images yet)?
14:34 < scottrigby> i love the hexagon btw. have done a bit of work with hexagons & human networks
14:34 < Andrew_Mallis> yeah, we were playing around with the idea. It's graphically strong, but conceptually less so
14:34 < scottrigby> like http://basekamp.com/about/projects/making-room-redundancy and http://basekamp.com/about/projects/post-autonomy-nodelondon
14:34 < Andrew_Mallis> vis-a-vis fga
14:35 < scottrigby> yeah… 'worker bees' :p may have mixed connotations…
14:36 < Andrew_Mallis> http://tumblr.com/ZA2cMwDNII4j
14:36 < Andrew_Mallis> could work well cropped and for your audience
14:36 < Andrew_Mallis> otherwise, there is http://tumblr.com/ZA2cMwDW7aq5
14:37 < Andrew_Mallis> which has some nice domes
14:37 < scottrigby> but hexes as an interface for connecting ideas… i like that every idea can have 6 degrees of separation from any other ;)
14:38 < scottrigby> oh this pdf is cool
14:38 < Andrew_Mallis> yep. just too many connotations
14:38 < scottrigby> yeah
14:38 < Andrew_Mallis> FGA is not the borg
14:39 < scottrigby> yeah exactly. it's more organic
14:39 < scottrigby> you know… would you be open to me adding the pdf pages as images to that announcement?
14:39 < scottrigby> i think these are great
14:40 < Andrew_Mallis> I have a revised PDF that is a bit more coherent
14:40 < Andrew_Mallis> let me post it
14:40 < scottrigby> we can also attach files to those pages (if that would be ok for people to follow along during the chat?) what was the context of this slideshow btw?
14:40 < scottrigby> ok cool
14:47 < Andrew_Mallis> http://tumblr.com/ZA2cMwEPmVyX
14:50 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis: awesome
14:51 < scottrigby> maybe a closeup of page 12, or from page 6 could be the initial thumbnail?
14:53 < Andrew_Mallis> please don't do 12
14:55 < scottrigby> how about a detail of 13?
14:56 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis: would you mind a detail of page 13? it's just very active… kind of illustrates (even in general) how this works at a glance
14:56 < Andrew_Mallis> those diagrams explore certain concepts
14:56 < Andrew_Mallis> but are not how things work necessarily
14:57 < Andrew_Mallis> in FGA
14:57 < Andrew_Mallis> I'd prefer a more general image as the poster
14:58 < Andrew_Mallis> p 3, 6, 8, or 9
14:58 < Andrew_Mallis> if you don't mind
14:59 < scottrigby> i really like 6 but i think people (even info graphic versions) are important
15:16 < hellekin> hey guys
15:16 < hellekin> there's a technical meeting with OccupyLSX people
15:16 < hellekin> see http://piratenpad.de/06pAh0CBWz
15:17 < hellekin> I guess you should join
15:17 < hellekin> the topic is what platforms to use to cooperate better :)
15:17 < hellekin> I just got the info recently
15:26 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis: just sent you a quick email
16:29 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: http://hypothes.is/#fellows
16:29 < sdboyer> workshop on reputation systems, with what looks like a pretty star-studded cast
16:31 < Andrew_Mallis> reading up…
16:31 < Andrew_Mallis> http://www.livingvotersguide.org/
16:32 < Andrew_Mallis> I was thinking that, post slide-deck we need a simple video like this
16:33 < Andrew_Mallis> like the hypothes.is page has
16:33 < sdboyer> yep, agreed
16:33 < sdboyer> very much
16:33 < Andrew_Mallis> maybe even a casual interview. Maybe we can convince someone in Media.
16:34 < Andrew_Mallis> rather than try and be slick
16:34 < Andrew_Mallis> good on boarding tool
16:34 < sdboyer> indeed
16:35 < Andrew_Mallis> part of the "getting started" / communication practices flow
16:35 < sdboyer> i'm *sure* we could find someone in media who'd be interested in putting it together
16:35 < sdboyer> yep
16:35 < Andrew_Mallis> save some orientation time on all these calls
16:37 < Andrew_Mallis> the 12 principles @ 4:44 in the video: we should have a list of values like this.
17:53 < LP_> http://projects.occupy.net/issues/114 where does one put feedback? In the queue?
17:53 < Andrew_Mallis> yes
17:54 < LP_> Feels wrong, ok..
17:54 < Andrew_Mallis> what feels wrong about it? please elaborate
17:54 < LP_> well, it's regarding URL structures and unique keys, so it's slightly divergent
17:54 < LP_> No issue type of "whattya think about..."
17:55 < LP_> http://pastebin.com/g1GSnA6k
17:55 < Andrew_Mallis> maybe you should look at http://projects.occupy.net/issues/113 ?
17:56 < Andrew_Mallis> oh. so this relates to path auto?
17:56 < Andrew_Mallis> *pathauto
17:56 < LP_> Not really, as I don't think we're using it
17:57 < LP_> 113 shows $node->title
17:57 < LP_> sorry, "relates to", I guess so.
17:59 < Andrew_Mallis> I am confused
17:59 < Andrew_Mallis> there are 2 issues here
17:59 < Andrew_Mallis> 1 is the URL structure
17:59 < Andrew_Mallis> the other is our unique key and where/what it is?
17:59 < LP_> yup
18:00 < LP_> Thought of both while looking at the dev.
18:00 < Andrew_Mallis> i think url structure based on node title isn't so hot?
18:01 < LP_> this has been a thing for me.. it's pretty, and friendly, but poses issues.
18:02 < Andrew_Mallis> you're worried about 2 occupations with the same name?
18:02 < Andrew_Mallis> Like occupy Georgia?
18:02 < Andrew_Mallis> which could be the state or the country?
18:02 < LP_> not "worried", just pointing it out
18:02 < Andrew_Mallis> how about
18:02 < LP_> springfield is an obvious one
18:03 < Andrew_Mallis> how about a structure that is like
18:03 < Andrew_Mallis> 'country/state/name'
18:03 < Andrew_Mallis> in the url?
18:03 < Andrew_Mallis> makes more sense
18:04 < Andrew_Mallis> we can use args in the path as part of our view system
18:05 < Andrew_Mallis> ah. great. location doesn't give us tokens for that
18:05 < Andrew_Mallis> http://dev.fga-directory.gotpantheon.com/directory#overlay=admin/config/search/path/patterns
18:06 < LP_> I don't have admin, btw, but ok.
18:06 < Andrew_Mallis> all we gots is [node:field_occupation_address]
18:06 < Andrew_Mallis> LP_ you should
18:06 < Andrew_Mallis> do u have a a PGP key?
18:06 < LP_> no worries right now
18:07 < LP_> pgp, pcp, rsa, dsa, nsa
18:07 < Andrew_Mallis> if you can send me your via key I will encrypt the password for u1 and send it to you
18:07 < LP_> I'll ponder on this today
18:07 < LP_> okeh
18:08 < Andrew_Mallis> btw - started a new category of tickets called "just do it" and a view here: http://projects.occupy.net/projects/fga/issues?query_id=15
18:08 < Andrew_Mallis> kind of pick-em-up and run with it entry points for people
18:09 < Andrew_Mallis> LP_: is there an agenda for tomorrow's meeting that you know of? I've started one on etherpad
18:09 < Andrew_Mallis> http://notes.occupy.net/p/FGA-GM-jan8
18:09 < LP_> okeh
18:09 < LP_> not that I know of
18:10 < Andrew_Mallis> will email this out then
18:10 < LP_> added to event notes..
18:11 < Andrew_Mallis> where are those?
18:11 < LP_> like, in the gcal event description
18:12 < LP_> I find it nice to bundle up event, location, directions, agenda, all nice and tidy
18:13 < Andrew_Mallis> hm. my cal isn't picking up much more than a general listing
18:14 < LP_> your ca is doing it wrong
18:14 < LP_> s/ca/cal
18:16 < Andrew_Mallis> ah. manual refresh in ical helped
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20:20 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: ping
20:20 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: pong
20:21 < Andrew_Mallis> can you conference at 8:40 with fourth and I?
20:22 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: yes, but with a hard max of 45 minutes
20:22 < Andrew_Mallis> I don't really want to spend that long. 30 max imho
20:23 < sdboyer> yeah i hope it wouldn't take that long either, just making that clear from the outset
20:23 < sdboyer> conference through what medium?
20:23 < Andrew_Mallis> I will initiate a 3-way phone call?
20:26 < sdboyer> sure
20:40 < Andrew_Mallis> Sorry. Can't initiate a 3-way. Please call my cell and I will merge the calls.
20:41 < Andrew_Mallis> we're on the line
20:43 < sdboyer> lovely, phone app is crashing
20:44 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: i'll call with skype, what's your #?
20:44 < Andrew_Mallis> 650-796-7476
22:47 < scottrigby> hey Andrew_Mallis & sdboyer
22:48 < scottrigby> & everyone
22:48 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis: images are up http://basekamp.com/about/events/federated-general-assembly
22:48 < Andrew_Mallis> cool; thanks.
22:49 < scottrigby> np :) it does look good on the home page
22:49 < Andrew_Mallis> the text makes it seem like the software already exists
22:49 < Andrew_Mallis> "was initially developed"
22:50 < scottrigby> actually… yeah
22:50 < scottrigby> good call
22:50 < scottrigby> ok changed that
22:50 < Andrew_Mallis> any thoughts on the audience for the call?
22:51 < Andrew_Mallis> "There are also an effort"
22:51 < Andrew_Mallis> homepage looks really nice indeed
22:51 < scottrigby> it's an odd mix of artists, designers, engineers, philosophers, curators, activists, flagrant optimists, pessimists
22:51 < scottrigby> whoops
22:51 < Andrew_Mallis> awesome
22:52 < scottrigby> ok fix'd
22:52 < scottrigby> gotta move bk/com to d7 someday!
22:53 < scottrigby> maybe we can upgrade it to fga ;)
22:53 < Andrew_Mallis> let's start by upgrading fga to basekamp on Tuesday ;)~
22:53 < scottrigby> sdboyer: also pinging u here in case you've got too many emails to wade through… may be good if you have a moment to glance @ that page before tomorrow
22:54  * scottrigby chuckles
22:54 < scottrigby> yeah, good start
22:54 < Andrew_Mallis> scottrigby: sam is afk for a while
22:54 < scottrigby> cool
22:54 < scottrigby> me too actually, in a sec
22:55 < scottrigby> oops, i meant "developing IN connection with the FGA process."
22:56 < scottrigby> Andrew_Mallis: o actually will sam be afk tomorrow as well?
22:57 < Andrew_Mallis> we have a general meeting
22:57 < scottrigby> maybe it's enough that you looked over this… i could prob send it out tonight
22:57 < Andrew_Mallis> I think it's enough.
22:57 < scottrigby> it's not like it's the front cover of the Times…
22:57 < scottrigby> heh
22:57 < scottrigby> thx for looking it over
22:57 < Andrew_Mallis> no
22:59 < scottrigby> ok sent. woot
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