--- Log opened Tue Jan 03 00:00:24 2012
00:09 < sdboyer> walkah: oh, i promised to tell you about the groups post. here: http://projects.occupy.net/boards/6/topics/27
01:29 < LP_> Andrew_Mallis: bloop
10:28 < sdboyer> scottrigby: kicked http://projects.occupy.net/issues/124 back to you
10:28  * sdboyer just can't find time atm
10:33 < scottrigby> sdboyer: ok yeah - the privacy thing is important, and interesting… it makes me wonder *if* specific approaches to  / ideas surrounding privacy should be pushed off for a later date though? maybe even another place than an initial project description?
10:33  * scottrigby will think more about it, and reach out to the group on that if i get stuck
10:57 < Amgine> dunno what site privacy you're referring to, but NYCGA.net isn't offering any atm, imo.
11:19 < sdboyer> scottrigby: yes, basically leave the privacy stuff until later. but i'm imagining that, as Amgine has noted about nycga.net, we basically won't offer PMs. it's hard enough to manage in a single site instance, but it's a completely different scale of problem in a federated context
11:19 < sdboyer> we can offer controlled/private messaging via things like xmpp or if we could somehow build overtop of tahrir, for example, but other nah
11:19 < sdboyer> s/other/otherwise/
11:20 < sdboyer> Amgine: and we're talking about in the context of fga, as this is the fga channel :)
11:20 < Amgine> <nods>
11:20 < Amgine> The link was more obscuring than clarifying.
11:21 < sdboyer> Amgine: it's in the fga project on redmine
11:21 < sdboyer> though that itself is not entirely well-expressed in the interface
11:22 < Amgine> Yah... the discussions linked to there as elements of #124 were... tangential.
11:23 < Amgine> <is easily distracted in Reddit>
11:25  * scottrigby is back
11:26 < scottrigby> Amgine & sdboyer - yeah, i was thinking really only about an introductory project description for FGA
11:26 < scottrigby> imagining a feature list would be elsewhere
11:26 < sdboyer> more than ever at this point we need an onboarding docs & plan
11:26 < sdboyer> yeah it's not a feature list
11:26 < sdboyer> for sure not
11:26 < sdboyer> but intro docs are a starting point for onboarding
11:28 < sdboyer> after that it's much more possible to provide information to folks so they can self-organize themselves into somewhere useful
11:28 < sdboyer> it's increasingly clear to me that i have to wrangle up funding b/c i just *cannot* continue with (nominally) having a client gig 30 hrs/wk
11:28 < sdboyer> i need to be on this super-fulltime-plus
11:29 < sdboyer> but we're awash in volunteers and insufficient practical process & structure to connect them to
11:29  * scottrigby nods
11:29  * sdboyer is going to spend what time he can this week setting up our initial makefiles and getting the build system running
11:29 < sdboyer> at least we can have devs crank on shit that way
11:29 < sdboyer> even if we have to back it out once more comes in from UX
11:30 < scottrigby> yeah
11:31 < scottrigby> this week i'm going to make a super-simple announcement for the 'public FGA Skype' thing… and make ample use of that project description as it is… sounds like the best thing to do is pass that to the list when i have that set up, so anyone who cares can weigh in if i've missed something that needs to be mentioned in that context
11:32 < scottrigby> that's still set for next Tues night
13:05 < sdboyer> scottrigby: great
13:06 < Andrew_Mallis> hey gang
13:28 < Andrew_Mallis> I have asked to set up logging on this channel for us, which he's agreed to do.
13:28 < Andrew_Mallis> in the same spot #nycga-techops is housed
13:29 < Andrew_Mallis> ping LP_
13:31 < Andrew_Mallis> collecting some more UX people
13:31 < Andrew_Mallis> following up with a contact at Parsons
13:32 < Andrew_Mallis> and have been granted access to the job board there, and some follow up help blasting alumni
13:33 < Andrew_Mallis> it would be f'n great if we we had a domain and some official-ish email addresses!
13:40 < Senpai> (from http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/03/sopa-freedom-and-the-invisible-war/)
13:40 < Senpai> "Government can, if cornered, interact with enemies on a physical level. Bradley Manning is in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, facing life imprisonment for essentially doing what anyone with a USB key and a grudge could do with proper security clearance. Rupert Murdoch’s big crime was performing a “phone hacking” maneuver that you learn in Script Kiddie 101. Meanwhile, groups like LOLSEC and Anonymous have run circles around multiple targets acr
13:40 < Senpai> the globe. SOPA is a straw man."
13:40 < Senpai> "We can keep our freedom on the Internet. However, as we give big businesses more of our time, attention, and personal information, we build a cage of our own making, no SOPA required."
13:40 < Senpai> I'm happy to be a part of a movement to build this data system outside of the confines of "big business". Thumbs up!
13:45 < Andrew_Mallis> putting together people lists makes me feel like we need a basic crm
13:50 < Senpai> Well, google has one for 'free', and so does rule.fm, and then there's …. HAHAHAHA! I made a funny.
17:23 < LP_> Andrew_Mallis: was afk all day, though comp was on..
17:51 < Amgine> <hugs LP_>
17:52 < LP_> appreciated, though unsure why...
17:56 < Amgine> Caught the patrolling up today.
20:37 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: directory now, right?
20:37 < sdboyer> err, nm, in 20 minutes
20:37 < Andrew_Mallis> thanks for the reminder!
20:59 < Andrew_Mallis> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/ideograph.ca/fga
20:59 < Andrew_Mallis> we are live
21:00 < sdboyer> kk, brt
21:10 < LP_> yeah, boris. :)
21:14 < sdboyer> mbyrnes: you comin or goin, eh?
21:15 < LP_> I like the raingear
21:16 < sdboyer> she's got drupal-themed nails in the picture i have of her in my phone
21:16 < sdboyer> it's quite a thing
21:16 < LP_> :)
21:17 < sdboyer> BOOOORIIIIIIS
21:17 < sdboyer> is that your given name?
21:17 < LP_> ha
21:17 < sdboyer> or just more fun and tricksiness?
21:17 < sdboyer> wait...
21:17 < sdboyer> wait i detect a trick
21:18 < LP_> I just don't have g+ on my main email, don't want it.
21:18 < sdboyer> indeed, that is in fact the name of the dude for whom my BOOOORRIIIIIIIS thing was referring
21:19 < LP_> silly yes
21:33 < LP_> Keys don't seem like they should loc or name, but created within the dir. ref: split in indy: http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/9099309-418/occupy-indy-protesters-split-take-different-tacks.html
22:10 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: gimme a tic and i'll be ready to stab at normalization?
22:10 < sdboyer> LP_: you wanna hang for this too?
22:10 < LP_> okeh
22:10 < LP_> boris
22:10 < sdboyer> BOOOOOOOOOOOORIS
22:10 < LP_> same channel?
22:12 < sdboyer> same bat time, same bat channel
22:18 < sdboyer> hm, andrew vanished...
22:20 < LP_> <poof>
22:22 < sdboyer> LP_: ah he's running back home
22:22 < sdboyer> he'll be there in 20
22:22  * sdboyer returns to trying to get git-dev back up and running
22:24 -!- scottrigby_ is now known as scottrigby
22:24 < LP_> 20 mins is fast to canada.
22:24 < sdboyer> eh, he's good at what he does
22:52 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: he returns!
22:52 < sdboyer> one more sec, i'm finishing up a list of problems with the git-dev server, and if i don't get them in all at once narayan won't get to them
22:52 < LP_> I gotta brb 5 mins too
22:53 -!- LP_ is now known as LP_afk_brb
22:53 -!- LP_afk_brb is now known as LP_brb
22:57 -!- LP_brb is now known as LP_
23:01 < sdboyer> oook
23:01 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis LP_: let's get this enviablly awesome party started
23:02 < sdboyer> awww sad panda
23:02 < sdboyer> i'm not invited to the hangout
23:02 < sdboyer> Andrew_Mallis: kick up another?
23:02 < Andrew_Mallis> ok
23:03 < Andrew_Mallis> LP_: https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/ideograph.ca/fga
23:04 < Andrew_Mallis> sdboyer: boy-o?
23:04 < sdboyer> comin comin
23:20 < sdboyer> LP_: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aldd4WFocycHdDJ6YXZmRHNXNENra2lubDNIZTJHenc&hl=en_US#gid=0
23:57 -!- amgine is now known as Amgine
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