--- Log opened Sun Nov 20 00:00:50 2011 00:04 < markstacey> yeah, there are supposed to be a few contacts per movement, 2-4 00:05 < markstacey> invite only, but they are actively looking for volunteers to be contacts for their movement 00:06 < markstacey> someone recommended to aim for 2 people on-site and 2 off. 00:06 <@Amgine> I don't remember of OccupyToronot is on the list or not. 00:06 < markstacey> I'm pretty sure they have someone from OccupyToronto, but I don't remember seeing them post... 00:07 < markstacey> idk 00:15 < mcallan> their map has a blue thingy for toronto, which i think means they have someone. https://groups.google.com/group/intercitycanada/browse_thread/thread/f784ce75319a064c 00:17 < mcallan> but it sucks they are a select club. i can't find anyone in canada to discuss cross-occupy tech issues (or even intra occupy) so i have to go to nyc and other us-based forums/lists 00:18 <@Amgine> I will talk about cross-occupy tech issues, but my only real area of expertise is wikis. 00:19 < mcallan> i work with wikis too (MediaWiki). i think we were talking the other day... 00:19 <@Amgine> Possibly. We have our wiki farm up and running now. 00:20 < mcallan> cool, the dns problem was solved? how many wikis atm? 00:22 < markstacey> there is #occupycanada 00:22 < markstacey> not a whole lot of that type of discussion in there, but there should be :p 00:22 < markstacey> good place to start it 00:22 <@Amgine> 3 wikis being hosted at the moment. But a lot of push to create a "global" wiki. 00:23 < markstacey> good guy to talk about for tech issues in my city, he's online every now and then but not now... 00:24 < markstacey> and not usually on this network, we use synirc.net at the moment. But I could recommend this network to him 00:24 <@Amgine> I'm on several networks, myself. I don't think I've ever visited synirc.net though. 00:25 < markstacey> there's also a central website in the works apparently. 00:26 <@Amgine> Unfortunately there are several. But I would like to know more about who is running the central canada plans. 00:27 < markstacey> you should get in contact with them, there was a thread about it somewhere in there 00:27 < markstacey> wait yeah I think I saw you post there once already. 00:29 <@Amgine> Yah, not much reply. 00:31 < markstacey> they seem to be more comfortable talking on skype 00:32 <@Amgine> bah. I need to figure out how to get this machine to play nice with skype. 00:32 <@Amgine> Probably have to install ubuntu. 00:33 < markstacey> lol 00:33 < markstacey> yeah I am not a huge fan either, I have not talked to them 00:35 <@Amgine> mcallan: if you are on facebook: http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=https://www.facebook.com/event.php%3Feid%3D242814722448091&usg=AFQjCNF2BkVMezufPF0V0mQUewsz537wGQ 00:35 <@Amgine> That should give you the information about Kingston's plans, and how they are calling on all Canada Occupations to join their direct actions. 00:38 < mcallan> Amgine: i could explain to them how to redraft the crime bill using MediaWiki, and vote up a consensus alternative... 00:39 < mcallan> but the Kingston group is small (not a lot of tech experts), and they probably won't get it... 00:39 <@Amgine> But if Toronto GA supports it, maybe you could occupy a conservative's office instead. 00:40 <@Amgine> Both kinds of actions are needed by the movement. 00:40 <@Amgine> What kind of voting do you prefer on mediawiki? 00:40 < markstacey> re: redrafting, I don't really know exactly how a document like that should be worded, that should probably be left to a lawyer or law student or something. 00:41 < mcallan> well, the stuff i work on is here: http://zelea.com/project/votorola/home.xht 00:42 < mcallan> i don't have a bill, but here's a properly worded bylaw: http://zelea.com/w/User:Mike-ZeleaCom/Tor/p/grfin 00:42 <@Amgine> Yes, I've been here before. 00:43 < mcallan> for the bylaw, we just followed examples... 00:43 < mcallan> and then too, we can get lawyers to help us 00:44 < markstacey> right on.... should definitely let them know about it 00:45 < mcallan> Amgine: we use MediaWiki for drafting, and other stuff. but it's like a component of a larger system... 00:45 < mcallan> it's not like the voting is part of the wiki, more the other way around 00:46 <@Amgine> I'm just thinking it *could* be an extension for the wiki. 00:46 <@Amgine> If I understand this, which I don't think I do. 00:46 < mcallan> yes, you're right 00:47 < mcallan> you can draft bills etc. in your wiki farm e.g.,,, 00:47 < mcallan> and you could vote on them using votorola 00:48 < mcallan> no need to install any extension tho, works with any mediawiki site (as long as api is enabled, which it is by default) 00:48 < markstacey> Could I link this on our blog? Some of our members would be interested in this 00:48 < mcallan> markstacey: sure, thxs 00:48 < mcallan> i'm not trying to sell the project tho, there's more to it... 00:49 < mcallan> http://www.nycga.net/groups/internet/forum/topic/preventing-a-monopoly-of-voting-media/ 00:49 < mcallan> we want occupy to support free choice of voting media 00:50 < markstacey> woah, awesome 00:51 < mcallan> it's been really hard reaching people on the ground (at least for me, because i don't have mobile devices, and can't travel to ny) 00:52 < mcallan> (back soon) 02:03 < wtfmates> http://narf-archive.com/pix/d1ad6e3d36961b0546f340712a10cb36eb897da0.jpg 02:05 < markstacey> http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2011/11/18/this-is-attawapiskat-sickness-rotting-houses-families-in-tents-no-running-water-human-waste-dumped-in-ditches/ 11:07 -!- []0_o[] is now known as CorporateAvenger 21:05 -!- CorporateAvenger is now known as []0_o[] --- Log closed Mon Nov 21 00:00:06 2011