--- Log opened Sun Nov 20 00:00:50 2011
00:04 < markstacey> yeah, there are supposed to be a few contacts per movement, 2-4
00:05 < markstacey> invite only, but they are actively looking for volunteers to be contacts for their movement
00:06 < markstacey> someone recommended to aim for 2 people on-site and 2 off.
00:06 <@Amgine> I don't remember of OccupyToronot is on the list or not.
00:06 < markstacey> I'm pretty sure they have someone from OccupyToronto, but I don't remember seeing them post...
00:07 < markstacey> idk
00:15 < mcallan> their map has a blue thingy for toronto, which i think means they have someone. https://groups.google.com/group/intercitycanada/browse_thread/thread/f784ce75319a064c
00:17 < mcallan> but it sucks they are a select club.  i can't find anyone in canada to discuss cross-occupy tech issues (or even intra occupy) so i have to go to nyc and other us-based forums/lists
00:18 <@Amgine> I will talk about cross-occupy tech issues, but my only real area of expertise is wikis.
00:19 < mcallan> i work with wikis too (MediaWiki).  i think we were talking the other day...
00:19 <@Amgine> Possibly. We have our wiki farm up and running now.
00:20 < mcallan> cool, the dns problem was solved?  how many wikis atm?
00:22 < markstacey> there is #occupycanada
00:22 < markstacey> not a whole lot of that type of discussion in there, but there should be :p
00:22 < markstacey> good place to start it
00:22 <@Amgine> 3 wikis being hosted at the moment. But a lot of push to create a "global" wiki.
00:23 < markstacey> good guy to talk about for tech issues in my city, he's online every now and then but not now...
00:24 < markstacey> and not usually on this network, we use synirc.net at the moment.  But I could recommend this network to him
00:24 <@Amgine> I'm on several networks, myself. I don't think I've ever visited synirc.net though.
00:25 < markstacey> there's also a central website in the works apparently.
00:26 <@Amgine> Unfortunately there are several. But I would like to know more about who is running the central canada plans.
00:27 < markstacey> you should get in contact with them, there was a thread about it somewhere in there
00:27 < markstacey> wait yeah I think I saw you post there once already.
00:29 <@Amgine> Yah, not much reply.
00:31 < markstacey> they seem to be more comfortable talking on skype
00:32 <@Amgine> bah. I need to figure out how to get this machine to play nice with skype.
00:32 <@Amgine> Probably have to install ubuntu. <siiiigh>
00:33 < markstacey> lol
00:33 < markstacey> yeah I am not a huge fan either, I have not talked to them
00:35 <@Amgine> mcallan: if you are on facebook: http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=https://www.facebook.com/event.php%3Feid%3D242814722448091&usg=AFQjCNF2BkVMezufPF0V0mQUewsz537wGQ
00:35 <@Amgine> That should give you the information about Kingston's plans, and how they are calling on all Canada Occupations to join their direct actions.
00:38 < mcallan> Amgine: i could explain to them how to redraft the crime bill using MediaWiki, and vote up a consensus alternative...
00:39 < mcallan> but the Kingston group is small (not a lot of tech experts), and they probably won't get it...
00:39 <@Amgine> <laughs> But if Toronto GA supports it, maybe you could occupy a conservative's office instead.
00:40 <@Amgine> Both kinds of actions are needed by the movement.
00:40 <@Amgine> What kind of voting do you prefer on mediawiki?
00:40 < markstacey> re: redrafting, I don't really know exactly how a document like that should be worded, that should probably be left to a lawyer or law student or something.
00:41 < mcallan> well, the stuff i work on is here: http://zelea.com/project/votorola/home.xht
00:42 < mcallan> i don't have a bill, but here's a properly worded bylaw: http://zelea.com/w/User:Mike-ZeleaCom/Tor/p/grfin
00:42 <@Amgine> <looks> Yes, I've been here before.
00:43 < mcallan> for the bylaw, we just followed examples...
00:43 < mcallan> and then too, we can get lawyers to help us
00:44 < markstacey> right on.... should definitely let them know about it
00:45 < mcallan> Amgine: we use MediaWiki for drafting, and other stuff.  but it's like a component of a larger system...
00:45 < mcallan> it's not like the voting is part of the wiki, more the other way around
00:46 <@Amgine> <nods> I'm just thinking it *could* be an extension for the wiki.
00:46 <@Amgine> If I understand this, which I don't think I do.
00:46 < mcallan> yes, you're right
00:47 < mcallan> you can draft bills etc. in your wiki farm e.g.,,,
00:47 < mcallan> and you could vote on them using votorola
00:48 < mcallan> no need to install any extension tho, works with any mediawiki site (as long as api is enabled, which it is by default)
00:48 < markstacey> Could I link this on our blog?  Some of our members would be interested in this
00:48 < mcallan> markstacey: sure, thxs
00:48 < mcallan> i'm not trying to sell the project tho, there's more to it...
00:49 < mcallan> http://www.nycga.net/groups/internet/forum/topic/preventing-a-monopoly-of-voting-media/
00:49 < mcallan> we want occupy to support free choice of voting media
00:50 < markstacey> woah, awesome
00:51 < mcallan> it's been really hard reaching people on the ground (at least for me, because i don't have mobile devices, and can't travel to ny)
00:52 < mcallan> (back soon)
02:03 < wtfmates> http://narf-archive.com/pix/d1ad6e3d36961b0546f340712a10cb36eb897da0.jpg 
02:05 < markstacey> http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2011/11/18/this-is-attawapiskat-sickness-rotting-houses-families-in-tents-no-running-water-human-waste-dumped-in-ditches/
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