--- Log opened Thu Nov 17 00:00:03 2011
01:18 < wtfmates> http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/tactical-briefing-19.html
01:19 < Andrew_Mallis> we are launching and building at the same time as we are going viral with http://maps.occupy.net/
01:24 < wtfmates> https://twitpic.com/7f3qjo
01:39 <@amgine> Cool Andrew_Mallis! I've been doing some related stuff. Can we talk>
01:39 <@amgine> ?
01:48 < Andrew_Mallis> amgine: maybe later? busy launching with the team
01:48 <@amgine> <nods>
01:49 < CorporateAvenger> That was funny... a guy on global revolution ask the people to type "illuminati" backward into google and see what comes up on top!
01:49 < CorporateAvenger> try it out ;)
01:57 <@amgine> Andrew_Mallis: http://wiki.shop.tm/index.php/Occupy_Vancouver/map
02:10 -!- CorporateAvenger is now known as []0_o[]
02:23 <@amgine> Andrew_Mallis: is there a team channel I may listen in on?
02:23 < mcallan> looks like andrew and all are coding a version of ushahidi for occupy: http://demo.ushahidi.com/
02:24 < mcallan> amgine: the difference from the vancouver map (if i understand) is it's about events and stuff
02:26 <@amgine> Yes, but that can easily be coded as a short extension: a routine to accept reports and store them as 5 data fields, and another to retrieve them as ~ separated values.
02:27 <@amgine> This is, literally, all the pointers on the Vancouver map: http://wiki.shop.tm/index.php?title=Occupy_Vancouver/map/pointers&action=edit
02:28 < mcallan> so you could add events etc. ok
02:29 <@amgine> I like Usahadi's ability to source events better, but I don't like relying on googlemaps and geolocation api.
02:31 <@amgine> (also, there are existing efforts at both GeoNames and OpenStreetMap to support Occupy. Should use their efforts)
02:36 < mcallan> agree it's nice to be as open as possible.  with votorola we offer both osm and google (user choice) under open layers.  it's more for events related to voting and stuff tho, and it's all still early prototypes
02:37 < mcallan> not much to look at right now: http://zelea.com/y/vw/xf/#c=DG
02:37 < mcallan> use (+) thing at top right
02:37 <@amgine> <nods> I need to learn more about open layers... it's available with the maps parser hook, but I just don't know how best to take advantage of it.
02:37 <@amgine> <looks>
02:38 < mcallan> we use it under gwt, that's our platform for this particular ui
02:39 <@amgine> <nods>
02:41 < mcallan> at some point, i hope to meet tech folks at ot, and discuss voting related stuff
02:42 <@amgine> Mmm, actually, I've been asked to find a decent online voting implementation for mediawiki. I'm not even sure there is one.
02:43 <@amgine> I haven't been able to get in touch with Ella for a couple days; do you know how best to get in touch with her?
02:44 < mcallan> sorry, i don't know ella
02:44 < mcallan> is there descrip somewhere, what you want to do with mw?
02:44 <@amgine> <sighs> Since we finished setting up the wiki farm we haven't really been able to launch, waiting on subdomains access.
02:45 < mcallan> ah, a whole farm.  not just for ot, right?
02:45 <@amgine> Yes.
02:45 < mcallan> why farm, why not 1 wiki?
02:46 <@amgine> Because we don't think 1 ring will (successfully) rule them all.
02:46 < mcallan> cool, agree with that sentiment
02:46 <@amgine> We would like to give groups options.
02:46 <@amgine> For example, Toronto's team is building extensive stuff inside one of our wikis, wiki.shop.tm.
02:47 <@amgine> (which will be migrated to a much better domain rsn.)
02:47 <@amgine> But other groups would rather have their own wiki for now; we will just take care of the hosting/software/support side of things.
02:48 < mcallan> all this for ot?  that is cool
02:48 <@amgine> OT's people are doign a *lot* of work. A user named Bensaccount is doing heavy lifting, plus many IPs
02:49 <@amgine> Which reminds me; Bensaccount asked me to do some work...
02:51 < mcallan> well, maybe we can chat later.  remind me again about mediawiki.  votorola uses it for drafting texts that are voted on, and a bunch of other stuff.  so maybe i can help at some point
02:51 <@amgine> <nods> I will do.
02:52 <@amgine> I need to sleep, myself, so bon soir...
02:52 -!- amgine is now known as Amgine
02:52 < mcallan> bon soir
03:00 < wtfmates> www.itanimulli.com
03:31 < mcallan> apparently that's "illuminati" spelt backwards, and it takes you to the nsa's website
10:34 < gorf> newstalk1010 producer from the other day is now openly calling me a liar and a bully online today
10:46 -!- []0_o[] is now known as CorporateAvenger
11:33 -!- amgine is now known as Amgine
13:59 < gorf> JIMrichards1010: @gorfed your argument is a laugh
13:59 < gorf> 1:38pm, Nov 17 from Twitter for iPhone
13:59 < gorf> gorfed: @jimrichards1010 As is your career.
13:59 < gorf> 1:54pm, Nov 17 from HootSuite
18:11 < wtfmates> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_YOZIujNg
19:49 < Andrew_Mallis> anyone around?
20:12 < wtfmates> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
20:35 < wtfmates> Sg.t Shamir Thomas is on CBC
20:38 < wtfmates> NYC Protestors on Brooklyn Bridge
21:33 < mcallan> Andrew_Mallis: hi andrew, how did the maps rollout go?
21:34 < Andrew_Mallis> well, except I don't have production access so can't pull fixes in
21:34 < Andrew_Mallis> AND I HAVE A VERY STRONG FEELING there is a media blackout in effect. NO more reports are coming in to maps.occupy.net
21:34 < Andrew_Mallis> #n17 tweets don't seem to be first hand accounts any more. News is getting stale and recycled.
21:36 < Andrew_Mallis> all livestreams are down.
21:36 < mcallan> so multiple, independent sources appear to be censored?
21:36 < Andrew_Mallis> My guess is that the police let protestors onto the brooklyn bridge to get them out of Manhattan
21:37 < mcallan> ah, i haven't been following events.  but i know there was some discussion in #occupywallstreet about feed problems...
21:38 < mcallan> unfort, i am very much out of the loop, tho
21:38 < Andrew_Mallis> there are some other on different providers who've gone black
21:40 < mcallan> i can't find quote in nytimes now, but bloomberg was pointing to small size of demo in the morning
21:41 < mcallan> he knows the protestors organize by media...
21:41 < mcallan> and as the size increased over the day...
21:42 < mcallan> maybe they have the power to shut down communications temporarilly, or to "ask" providers to do so
21:43 < mcallan> (but what do i know, just guessing)
21:48 < Kamakazi_> how goes it toronto!
22:01 < Andrew_Mallis> http://maps.occupy.net is available to all occupations, including Toronto.
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