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03:50 < tbonnema_> hi, just a quick note to let you know that the 12th Annual International Conference on Digital Government Research (dg.o 2011) is under way.
03:50 < tbonnema_> it's the first conference that will use the #edem IRC in an attempt to bridge attendees and non-attendees.
03:51 < tbonnema_> please tell your friends. ;-)
03:51 < tbonnema_> not sure how many people at the conference will be on IRC but should be a fun experiment either way.
03:53 -!- tbonnema_ is now known as tbonnema
09:08 < philpot_> hello
09:09 < philpot_> At dg.o 2011 conference, will broadcast to this channel any e-democracy topics or papers
09:10 < philpot_> if you are on-site and also in irc, chime in
09:13 < richards1000> Yes, I'm on-site and in irc
09:18 < richards1000> Legal Informatics Papers at dg.o 2011, listed here http://bit.ly/k9bFJI If you know of others, I'd be grateful to know of them
10:38 < philpot_> Munson et al, "Attitudes toward Online Availability of US Public Records"
10:39 < philpot_> Focused on people's attitudes toward public release of their real estate and campaign contributions.
10:40 < philpot_> Interestingly, people were more comfortable with access to their records by others within their local area, but less so for "out of area" queriers.
10:41 < philpot_> At least a few persons were surprised/annoyed to learn that their campaign contributions were public information.  They considered these much as political party identification and voting and should have been completely private.
10:43 < philpot_> One IT aspect is how easily data can be mashed up together so the effective degree of scrutiny can be much higher.  E.g. is the "how did my facebook friends donate?" single-click app.
10:45 < philpot_> People somehow feel different when you can browse to information as opposed to when it is compiled.  People somehow feel like random people should be able to look up something if they have a legitimate "need to know" but are uncomfortable/annoyed if they queries is just a nosy/busybody.
10:47 < philpot_> Presenter made a good point about some donators give just under or just above the reporting limit.  Interesting when this is a conscious choice...
10:47 < philpot_> End of Munson et al.
10:51 < philpot_> Colineau et al, "Delivering Citizen-Focused Documents for Public Administration"
10:53 < philpot_> Work focuses on the IT/customization(tailoring) and includes a demo.
11:09 < philpot_> Not very much information at this point regarding citizen feedback, citizen takeup or even effectiveness studies.
11:11 < philpot_> End of Colineau et al.
11:12 < philpot_> Fernandez et al, "Public Open Statistical Data: the Spanish Census"
11:14 < philpot_> System to provide a semantic view of the census results to the public.
11:16 < philpot_> Open Government Data supposed to improve transparency, interoperability.
11:18 < philpot_> Appears the focus is on providing more capability querying function than that provided by the Spanish government.
11:22 < philpot_> Paper presentation focuses on the representation in RDF/querying with SPARQL
11:30 < philpot_> Comment: this work stands as a critique of the way the (Spanish) government promulates census results.
11:30 < philpot_> End of Fernandez et al
11:59 < tbonnema> @richards1000 are you at dg.o 2011?
12:10 < tbonnema> blogged about it here: http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2011/06/13/dg-o-2011-first-conference-to-use-edem-irc/
12:33 < tbonnema> afternoon session and panels start at 1.30pm Eastern.
12:33 < tbonnema> program can be found here: http://dgo2011.dgsna.org/images/pdf/dgo2011program.pdf
12:50 < tbonnema> hey Justin
12:50 < tbonnema> you at dg.o, by any chance?
12:50 < justgrimes> yep, just got out of the last session. thought i'd check in on irc to see what was going on
12:51 < tbonnema> great.
12:52 < tbonnema> not a lot going on quite yet. Andrew was doing some live reporting earlier.  ;-)
12:52 < tbonnema> just starting to get the word out so we can fill the room some more.
12:52 < tbonnema> if you hear any interesting tidbits, please feel free to share them here.
12:52 < justgrimes> do you guys have access to all of conference papers? are they available online?
12:53 < tbonnema> btw, it looks like ePart 2011 is also generally interested in using #edem IRC (conference is end of August in Delft, NL)
12:55 < tbonnema> not sure if the papers are online, only see this list: http://dgo2011.dgsna.org/accepted-papers
13:03 < justgrimes> it doesn't look like they are sharing the papers online....which is a shame
13:07 < justgrimes> tim let me know if there is any sessions you want to hear more about
13:07 < tbonnema> one sec:
13:08 < tbonnema> session 4: "Analysis of Enterprise Architecture Frameworks in the Context of E-Participation"
13:09 < tbonnema> session 5: "Social Media In Government"
13:10 < tbonnema> and tomorrow:
13:10 < tbonnema> session 7: "Session 7. Social Media And Crowdsourcing" (yum)
13:11 < justgrimes> sadly i'll be missing tomorrow because i'll be at http://opengovdc.com/
13:11 < justgrimes> which sucks because tomorrow seems like the best day for this conference
13:11 < tbonnema> ah, of course.
13:12 < tbonnema> then on wednesday:
13:12 < tbonnema> session 13: "Political Participation"
13:12 < tbonnema> yep
13:12 < tbonnema> tomorrow looks good.
13:13 < justgrimes> ok im taking off for a quick lunch; i'll be back on when things start up again
13:13 < tbonnema> k
13:13 < tbonnema> thanks!
13:38 < philpot_> In panel: "Secure Government in Cyberspace?"
13:40 < philpot_> participants: Philip Seksikas, Georgia Marsh, Thomas Smedinghoff, Myisha Frazier-McElveen
13:40 < tbonnema> the Twitter stream for this conference can be found here: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23dgo2011+OR+%22dg.o+2011%22
13:44 < philpot_> Everyone agrees that the technology requirements for trust framework are in place.  It's the policy side that is lacking.
13:45 < philpot_> In this context, security means identity authentication: "who are you" and "how can you prove it"
13:52 < philpot_> "Federation" means use of an identity credential by one party for a different purpose: e.g., use of driver's license to get on a plane.
13:57 < philpot_> The same happens in the online space.  Note: due to desire to avoid a single national ID, there will always be multiple credentials (federation) in the federal data space.
14:06 < philpot_> Interestingly, the federal government cribbed from banks/financial institutions' handling of identity/security.
14:27 < philpot_> Panelists' expertise is on identity management, particularly on trust framework schemes.  E-voting is considered a "pseudo-identity", not a separate animal.
14:32 < keturn> I used to be in that industry.  Not so much in touch with it these last few years.
14:33 < philpot_> The current best hope for identify trust framework is: enforcement by contract, not by PKI or some technology lever...
15:27 < tbonnema> welcome, if you're joining for the first time.
15:28 < tbonnema> feel free to introduce yourself.
15:33 < philpot> in session 5: Social Media in Government
15:34 < philpot> paper: Kavanaugh et al, "Social Media Use by Government: From the Routine to the Critical"
15:34 < tbonnema> @philtot will the papers be available online?
15:43 < justgrimes> how goes the IRC chat room?
15:43 < tbonnema> it's going.
15:43 < tbonnema> small group, but I can see how this could work.
15:44 < tbonnema> with a little bit more lead time.
15:44 < tbonnema> and maybe in combination with live audio/video
15:45 < justgrimes> let me see if i can do something for you guys
15:46 < gloria_> ok i am in - what's happening here?  :-)
15:46 < philpot> focus on Kavanaugh et al is analysis of the tweet (etc.) stream
15:47 < tbonnema> hi there.
15:48 < tbonnema> in a nutshell: the idea is to establish the #edem IRC as a standing backchannel, to be used particularly during conferences (e-democracy, e-participation and related fields).  goal is to better connect these conferences with interested folks across the world (and vice versa).  dg.o 2011 is the first conference to officially support this (and thanks for that!).  ;-)
15:49 < tbonnema> in addition to other channels, of course, not as a replacement (e.g. blogs, Twitter)
15:49 < gloria_> ic
15:53 < justgrimes> im going to try to get a stream going
15:53 < tbonnema> ha! nice.
15:53 < justgrimes> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dgo2011
15:53 < justgrimes> someone try this and tell me how it looks
15:55 < tbonnema> works!
15:55 < justgrimes> can you hear ok?
15:55 < tbonnema> that's awesome, thanks.
15:55 < tbonnema> yeah. sound is great.
15:55 < justgrimes> cool
15:55 < justgrimes> i should have been doing this earlier
15:57 < justgrimes> this live stream is "Session 5. Social Media In Government"
15:58 < philpot> Kavanaugh et al takeaway: risks are far outweighed by the benefits when municipalities participate in Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc.
16:04 < philpot> end of Kavanaugh et al
16:05 < philpot> Next paper is Hansen et al, "Government Policies on the Use of Social Media: Legislating for Change"
16:06 < tbonnema> ah, now we lost you.  ;)
16:07 < tbonnema> back now
16:07 < justgrimes> cool
16:15 < tbonnema> hi there.
16:15 < tbonnema> thanks to @justgrimes we have a live stream, too: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dgo2011
16:41 < tbonnema> lost the live feed. but this was great, thanks for setting it up.
16:41 < tbonnema> oh, it's back.
16:42 < justgrimes> should be back; sorry every time i get a push notification it stops the feed :)
16:42 < tbonnema> what's your tech setup?
16:44 < philpot> Hansen et al focuses on how existing law impacts implementation of SM, sometimes in a weird/unbalanced way
16:45 < philpot> End of Hansen et al
16:46 < justgrimes> re: tech setup - you mean me?
16:47 < tbonnema> yes.  camera, laptop... did you use your iphone as a modem?
16:47 < tbonnema> just curious.
16:47 < tbonnema> it worked really great.
16:48 < justgrimes> nothing crazy...iphone 4, wifi, ustream broadcaster app
16:48 < tbonnema> I see. well, thanks again.
16:49 < justgrimes> i wont be here tomorrow (i dont think) but i'll try to live stream on wednesday
16:51 < justgrimes> i'll try to talk some other folks in to doing a live stream for tomorrow
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